Small steps towards a greener Glastonbury.

0:00Miguel Hello and welcome to GlastoCast, the unofficial Glastonbury Festival podcast. It's Miguel here, and usually this will be the moment I would say we're back into the studio, but we're not. Once again, we're recording remotely. So I guess you could say we're working from home today. Is that right?

0:35Rob Yeah, exactly. And I'm making a very conscious effort to not sound like I'm asleep today as well.

0:40Miguel Part of me wanted to ask, what's your pajama? But I'm not going to go there.

0:43Rob Oh no, you could do. I am actually wearing mine. Star Wars. Oh, wow.

0:48Miguel Thank you, Rob. TMI.

0:50David TMI.

0:51Jessi Yeah, massive TMI there.

0:53Miguel How are you, Jessi?

0:54David Are you good?

0:55Miguel Back from Download?

0:56Jessi Yeah, I'm really, really good. Yeah, back from Download. I was only there for 36 hours anyway, but I can definitely understand why everybody is referring to it as brown load or drown load or all of the above. Yeah, it was amazing. Very muddy. Reminded me of Glasto 2016. So I was well trained and prepared, but I'm hoping that June's weather has got rain out of its system now. And yeah, we're in the final few days now.

1:21Miguel So yeah, once again, we're recording remotely and we're still working on a process. So hopefully we'll reach the point where we're not going to give any disclaimer really. And you're just going to have to guess if we are in the same room or not. So in this episode, we'll talk about our final preparations for Glastonbury, and we also had a chat with some fantastic people who contribute to the festival every year. So keep listening to find out what a Worthy Warrior does, where to go in the festival to learn more about activism and to dig deeper into the green ethos of Glastonbury, and also how to make the most of the property lockups, a service that can really help you ease your days at the festival. So here we are after 2 years of waiting. The festival is almost here. I'm sure you guys have your ticket by now.

2:08Rob Yes, definitely. Mine is very much in a safe place.

2:11Jessi Mine, uh, is actually with a friend.

2:15David What?

2:15Jessi I know, I know, I know. I've been meaning to go and pick it up.

2:17Rob That's very trusting, Jessi. That's very trusting.

2:20Jessi I know, I know. I've been meaning to go and pick it up. Basically, we all paid off our tickets, um, at once. So one person paid for 3 on their card. We didn't realize that meant—

2:28David Great card trick.

2:29Jessi Yeah, well, you know, I then paid them back. It was to save, you know, a couple of pounds on booking fee, but if I'd have realised it meant that all 3 tickets went to his house, I was like, well, uh, so I've now got to go and, you know, in the last couple of days I've got to go and get that off him. So, but yes, I haven't actually had the ticket in the hand feeling yet.

2:47Rob I mean, is that a thing? I didn't realise that you could save money by doing that.

2:50Miguel Yeah, yeah, I did, I did the same thing, but I was the one receiving the, all the 6 tickets.

2:56Rob Okay, so you hold their fate in your hands.

3:00Miguel Because if you're anything like me, I have to check my ticket is where I left it. You say yours in a safe place, Rob, but I'm checking my safe place every day. Like, like, like the ticket would, would magically disappear or something. It's like, I know I need to know it's there before I go on with my day.

3:17Rob I think I check it more times than I do my passport the day you go on holiday.

3:21Miguel Similar thing. Similar thing. Yeah.

3:23Theo Yeah.

3:23Miguel I like, I open the drawer like, ah, there you go.

3:25Rob There it is.

3:26Miguel I take a look, I take a look at my new photograph for this year and I cringe a little bit.

3:31Rob Oh yeah. I had to change mine as well. Well, yeah, now that the hair's gone.

3:34Miguel Yeah, I mean, you probably need to change yours every year, Rob, because your looks change a lot.

3:43Rob Yeah, well, to be fair, I didn't actually change it last year in 2017, and I ended up going with— I want to say blonde hair, but let's be honest, it was pretty yellow, wasn't it?

3:51Miguel Yeah, it was. I actually have a beard in my photograph, and I shaved recently.

3:57Theo Oh, right.

3:57Rob Well, you've got time to grow something back.

3:59Miguel Yeah, yeah, 8 days.

4:00Rob I can just imagine you turning up with a fake beard, though.

4:05Miguel Well, to be on the safe side, maybe.

4:07Jessi You guys are making me anxious. My friend even said to me, the one who's got my ticket, even said to me today, he was like, oh, you know, if you don't find time, I can just, you know, I'm gonna convoy down with you so I can just meet you and give it to you on the convoy.

4:19Rob I'm like, no way. No, I'd be knocking on his door right now.

4:24Jessi Give me that ticket.

4:24Miguel Jessi, drop your microphone and go pick up your ticket right now.

4:30Jessi Go now. Oh yeah, okay, I might have to make time for that because yeah, you're making me anxious. Oh wow.

4:37Rob I think we need to stop mentioning it. In fact, I might just go and sit with mine now. I've got it in my hand right now.

4:41Jessi No, stop it! It'll be fine, guys. It'll be fine. I trust you.

4:45Rob It'll be fine. It'll be fine. It'll be fine. Oh wow.

4:48Miguel So now I think we are on weather watch. I mean, I am. I don't know if you are.

4:52Rob I think everybody's on weather watch, to be fair. Even if you don't want to be, you can't help it.

4:56Miguel Are you one of those who stress about the forecast in the rundown to the festival or not?

5:00Jessi Uh, I'm not. I used to be, but the thing is, I find that the weather predictions over my lifetime have not got better.

5:06David They've got worse.

5:06Jessi Like, it used to be that, you know, the weatherman on an evening would say, oh, for the next week it's going to be vaguely pleasant weather. Now nothing really ever correlates to what the weather the day before says, so I don't believe anything until maybe kind of the day or 2 days before. We've still got a week at the moment. Um, I mean, I am a little worried that there is currently rain in Pilton because, you know, if the ground's wet to start with— but they've got loads of good drainage systems in place, so Yeah, I think we'll be fine. I'm positive attitude.

5:37Rob I was going to say exactly that, Jessi. I mean, the fact that there's rain now softening the ground is, is what would make it an issue for once the masses come and the footfall raises and the mud gets soft. I'd be more interested in the weather kind of in the few days beforehand. I mean, honestly, I don't know about you guys, regardless of what the weather forecasts say, do you, do you pack for all weather just in case? I mean, I know I certainly do.

5:59Miguel I always pack for every situation. As well as I can going by bus, but I'm always ready.

6:07Rob Yeah. You micropack better than anyone I know, Miguel.

6:10David Yeah.

6:11Miguel I mean, years in the making of my, my lightweight gear, really.

6:15Jessi I've gone the other way this, this time, guys. Uh, so I usually pack, you know, for all weather, but I've collected so many incredible outfits and bought so many new things that I'm just going with, uh, whatever the weather, I'm gonna wear this.

6:29Theo Well, yeah.

6:30Jessi I might have a, I might have a poncho to put over the top, but I'm not going have the full range of— normally I have waterproof trousers, about 8 different hoodies, all of this, but this time I'm, I'm literally my sparkly outfits. Yeah, and maybe a poncho to throw over the top.

6:45Rob You're like, you're thinking I'm looking fabulous whether, whether you're good, whether you're bad. I'm looking good.

6:50Miguel I'm completely the opposite. I'm so incredibly boring at the festival because I just, well, I go technical. I go technical. I, I want quick drying. I want waterproofs.

6:59Jessi Well, I bought you 2 a present, so you better be prepared.

7:03Miguel Oh wait, wait, I'm so looking forward to that.

7:04Theo That's amazing.

7:06Miguel This is really, really the first time we're hearing that. This wasn't planned.

7:10Jessi No, that definitely wasn't planned. When I say I brought you a present, what I mean is I'm going to bring you something to wear. It's not that you can keep, FYI. I've got so many sparkles.

7:17Miguel Sorry.

7:18Rob Does that mean we need to buy you a gift or are we cool?

7:21Jessi No, no, no, no, we're totally cool. That's what I mean. I mean, like, I'm bringing you something to wear.

7:25Rob So, all right, fair enough. I like that.

7:27Jessi Just to get the photo.

7:27Miguel All right, great. I mean, I'm not one to stress about the weather, but I'm— I want to consume Glastonbury news all day. So I am looking at different weather providers all the time.

7:37Theo Yeah.

7:38Rob And for anyone that follows Glastonbury, I think it's difficult not to get involved in the weather because it's just almost constant, isn't it?

7:44Miguel I mean, I'm always reading the weather thread on E-Fest and that's quite fun. And I have my WhatsApp group with my friends, the ones I'm taking, most of them for the first time. Even though I don't stress, I do like to send them pictures of previous year with the mud and the flood just to get them, to get them to panic slightly.

8:05Rob Panic or just be appropriately prepared. I mean, for me, when you think about mud and rain, as long as you've got wellies and a poncho, then you're golden, aren't you? You've absolutely nothing to worry about. In a crowd, you're going to be warm anyway.

8:20Miguel Let's not start the wellies versus boots debate again.

8:23Rob Oh yeah, let's not go there.

8:26Miguel How is your preparation going? Your packing? What's your status on that?

8:31Rob Well, my conservatory has now become my Glastonbury packing area. Literally that. I've cleared everything else out and it's there and I'm starting to build it up and it's looking good. I'm feeling more prepared than ever, actually, which is very rare.

8:46Miguel I'm sort of the same. I kind of took my Glasto box. I don't know if you have one of those.

8:50Rob Glasto box?

8:52Miguel Took it out from storage and I just spread it all over my living room. And I was like, yeah, kind of reviewing everything.

9:01Jessi I don't know why I found that so funny.

9:04Miguel Wait, I'm the only one with a Glasto box? Are you guys saying, am I too much about Glastonbury? Is that it?

9:09Rob No, absolutely not. Never change. Never change.

9:12Miguel So this is actually true, not only in my living room, but also in my bedroom where I am right now. I'm surrounded by socks because yesterday I was trying different combinations of socks and footwear.

9:23Claire Wow.

9:25Jessi That is a new level of preparation.

9:26Rob What, like, as in multiple pairs of socks? Are we going one, two, three?

9:30Miguel I have. Exactly. That's what I'm trying. Like, is this one— enough on its own, or do I need a liner? How is this boot? How is this?

9:38Rob Are you prepared?

9:39Theo Yeah.

9:39Rob I said I'm more prepared than ever. And by that, I mean that I've been doing this for that many years. I kind of leave it till the last minute thinking I've got it sorted and then go for a bit of a mad rush. But I'm, you know, I'm being more prepared this time, taking a little bit more, more time with it.

9:54Miguel Every year I'm on a mad rush. How are you doing, Jessi?

9:57Jessi Yeah, I'm on a mad rush, but I've started to gather things. I've got, you know, I've got so many festival clothes and bits and pieces just spread everywhere. So I've started to kind of, like you, I've got everything downstairs. I'm like, I keep finding things and going, oh yeah, I might wear that. Oh yeah, I might take that. And I dump them all on the sofa.

10:14Miguel Sorry to interrupt you, but I think I saw you on Facebook asking, who has my sleeping bag?

10:20Jessi Thanks, Miguel, for like—

10:24Rob I totally outed you.

10:26Jessi Wow. Yeah, so I discovered before I went to Download Festival, in a mad panic on Saturday morning at about 7 in the morning, I was like, where is my sleeping bag? Running around the house, couldn't find it, and I just went, oh okay, I'll bring the spare one. I've got another one that's kind of my house one that doesn't pack up into a bag very well, it's like a big one. So I thought, well, I'm only going to download for one night and I'm parking quite close to where I'll be camping, I'll take that one for now. I've since come home and now can't find my sleeping bag. So yes, I have put out on Facebook, have I lent it to any of my friends? I've got some time, so you know, I'm thinking if nobody owns up then it'll be an Amazon Prime job, I reckon. But It's very annoying because I only bought a new one last year.

11:06Miguel Well, I also discovered something. I find out I got fatter during the past year.

11:11Jessi Oh wow. So I mean, same.

11:13Miguel My trousers are a bit tight.

11:15Rob Well, you've left that a bit late, Miguel. I think you're gonna have to start going for a run.

11:20Miguel I know. Again, that's why I'm in a rush. I had to go out and find a couple of new ones. So I think next year I'm going to have 2 Glasto boxes depending on my fitness.

11:29Rob Can I just ask, is it like a cardboard box that you've written Glasto box on the side? Please tell me yes.

11:35Miguel It is a cardboard box. No, there's no writing.

11:38Jessi Right, listeners, you'll be able to buy the official GlastoCast Glasto Box after the show.

11:44Miguel Wow, wow, we should, we should really look into that. A recommended kit.

11:51Rob I don't know, I think it was probably going to be fairly easy to make yourself, so, you know.

11:55Jessi I know, I was 100% joking. Get a shoebox, get a cardboard box, write Glasto Box on it.

12:02Miguel No, no, wait, wait.

12:02Jessi We are going way off tangent.

12:03Miguel Wait, we're not, we're not just We're not just giving the box, it will come with some contents.

12:09Rob Oh, okay.

12:12Miguel Our recommended gear.

12:13Jessi Your fat clothes and your thin clothes.

12:15Rob Yes, yes.

12:18Miguel Reduce, reuse, and recycle.

12:21Rob Yeah, that's it, guys. I mean, do you think that we're all getting ready that little bit earlier because 2018 was a fallow year? We're all just super keen to get there and we're starting maybe a little bit earlier than we would normally.

12:31Jessi I think I'm honestly at work, like, it doesn't help that so many of my friends, we're in a big WhatsApp group already. Can you imagine 30 people in a WhatsApp group talking about the weather constantly, but it means I'm thinking about Glastonbury literally about every minute at the moment. So I'll be at work and I'll get my head into something, and then I'll get a WhatsApp pop-up or it will start raining outside or something, and then I'll go, oh, Glastonbury this, blah blah, and I just can't stop thinking about it. It's really fun.

12:55Rob Everything relates to Glastonbury in the last week.

12:57Jessi Everything.

12:58Miguel So what's left to do for you guys? So Jessi, what's next on your list?

13:02Jessi Um, well, Figure out where my sleeping bag is slash buy a new one. It's like number one on the list there. And apart from that, I mean, I've, I've started doing my vodka, but I need to finish that off. So what I do every year for Glastonbury and for other festivals, I think, is I bring some sort of flavoured vodka that I made. It started off with the classic Skittles vodka, you know, the classic.

13:22Rob Oh, nice.

13:23Jessi And I've done a few sort of variations since there. So this year I'm bringing Murray Mint vodka, uh, and also remember those Strawberries and cream sweets, the hard sweets that were called Campinos back in the day. It's very difficult to find them anymore, but yeah, so I'm doing strawberries and cream vodka as well. So they've been infusing for about 2 weeks, they smell great, but what I've got to do is sort of siphon off all the, the bits now and kind of like—

13:46Claire Yeah, yeah.

13:47Jessi Mix it up. But so that, and actually I guess I've got all my stuff that I want to pack on the sofa and I have to actually arrange it into bags. So those are my to-do list, I guess, for the weekend. How about you, Rob?

13:59Rob So for me, the main thing I've still got to do is to check my tent. I do do it every time just because I've been caught out once before not having the pegs in there. Luckily, I mean, I scavenged some, but it's always nice to know they're there. So what I do is I get in my conservatory, I get it out and just make sure everything's there and there's no holes in it. And plus, it's nice to just give it that bit of an air out because it's been packed away in the bag, well, currently for almost 2 years. So just, you know, give it a shake out and To be fair, I'll probably find about a pound of glitter in there. There's no getting rid of glitter, is there? It just appears everywhere.

14:34Theo Yeah.

14:34Rob And I, I got absolutely mobbed by glitter last year, so I'm dreading it, but it's just gonna go everywhere. So yeah, I'll be clearing my tent out, airing it out, and, and making sure that's all good and ready. Um, and then really it's just, yeah, making sure that everything I've got fits. Um, as you know, I use a trolley, so I'll probably make sure everything fits on there, get enough bungee cords to get around it, and, uh, yeah, good to go.

14:56Jessi Oh, that's actually an update. I bought a trolley this year, guys. After our discussion earlier, I thought, treat yourself. Treat yourself.

15:06Miguel Some pop culture reference there.

15:08Rob Yeah, yeah, I'm glad you like that. That's good.

15:11Jessi Yeah, so I'll let you know how I get on with that.

15:13Rob Just tell us a little bit about your trolley. What did you go for in terms of specific details? Because I'm mad into trolleys and I've seen so many people buy the wrong ones.

15:21Jessi Believe me, I know my trolleys well. This is where you tell me I'm wrong. I got basically a flatbed one with 4 wheels and they're tyre wheels, so they're proper big tyre wheels. They've got like individual kind of turns on both the front and back, so both the front and back wheels will turn and it's got nice sort of sturdy sides on it. Yeah, so I'm going whole hog basically. I've gone for the big boy. I'm not just going for one of these tiny little sack trucks with plastic wheels.

15:47Rob You've gone all out. Have you got the bungee cords to keep everything in there?

15:51Jessi I do. I have the bungee cords and everything. Good, good.

15:53Miguel So, so are you hoping to do just one trip from the car?

15:56Jessi No, no, no, this is why I've got the, um, because I've got, after all this discussion, I've got 5 tents to put in the trolley this time and put up.

16:04Rob 5?

16:05Jessi Yeah, and they're all quite big ones. After my recommendations, all my friends have upgraded from small tiny tents, which is what I did in 2017. They've all got nice big palaces, so they're like, oh, can you take my tent still? I'm like, yeah, yeah, that's fine. And then I've seen them and they're the, you 10 kilos each kind of tents. I'm like, great, hence the trolley. Um, but no, I'll definitely need to be going back for booze, I think will be my, um, second run, and probably my clothes. I think first run will just be tents and like camping equipment, I guess, sleeping bags, that kind of thing.

16:34Rob I mean, I've already had the message from my friends saying, Rob, are you taking a trolley this year? Which I deciphered immediately as, Rob, will you go back to the car with me to get my booze?

16:43Jessi Yeah.

16:43Rob That's basically what that meant. And the other thing I've noticed after your recommendations, uh, Jessi, this was on Twitter quite a bit, people, um, tagging you because they've all We bought the, the S-hooks. Oh yeah, that's true, that was very popular. Yeah, lots of those.

16:55Jessi They're so good for, um, I know I said in the podcast, you know, for, um, hanging things off the back of the toilet, and I know a lot of people replied and said, oh, you can actually use the hooks that are in the toilet. Yeah, totally, totally true. Um, the nice thing with the S-hooks is that they have a bit more, you know, if you've got a bag and a jacket and whatever, you can hang quite a few things on the toilet. But also you can hang up in your tent, on the inside of your tent, you can hook it on, hang up like a coat in your porch. Ah, so you can Yeah, see, I use all the hooks in my tent for those little hanging light bulbs.

17:26Rob I think they're brilliant. I love those.

17:27Miguel So there you go, the S-hooks will be part of the GlastoCast box available in 2020.

17:33Rob You can get your Glasto box complete with S-hook.

17:38Miguel Yeah. So yeah, I did the same last weekend. I checked my tent, I opened up everything like the sleeping bags to get some air out. And as you, Rob, I actually cleaned some glitter from my tent from the last time. Oh, everybody, it gets everywhere.

17:53Rob Even if you don't use glitter, you find it. It's ridiculous. Don't get me wrong, I still like it.

17:57Miguel And also, of course, I cleaned some dry mud, but quite funny, there was a peacock feather inside my coat.

18:03Rob Oh wow, a peacock feather?

18:04Miguel Yeah, I mean, some sort of feather which I have no idea what.

18:07Rob Do we wanna know?

18:07Miguel No, no, I don't know. I don't know really.

18:10Jessi Is that one of your outfits maybe?

18:11Miguel No, again, I say my outfits are the most boring.

18:14Rob You should add it. You should make it into something for your outfit for this year.

18:18Miguel And also I found some 20ps, so there's that.

18:20Rob Oh, winning.

18:22David There you go.

18:22Rob I actually, when I went into my garage today, to look at my trolley. Um, it's absolutely covered in mud and I thought, oh, that's Glasto mud. Is that sad?

18:30Jessi Oh, did you have a little like, oh, Glasto mud?

18:33Rob I did. I had a moment. I had a moment. I just thought, I'm not going to keep it or anything, but I just thought, ah, that's, that's Glasto mud.

18:39Miguel And, uh, well, if I would add another tip for these last days of preparation, I've been rotating my portable chargers because, I mean, I use it not just for my phone, but also for my 360 camera. So I did a little bit more power. So if you had yours in your drawer for the last 2 years, it would be a good thing to do some cycles. Before the festival too.

18:57Rob That is a good tip. I'm going to absolutely do that because mine, like you say, mine are fully charged, but I don't remember the last time I used them. I've got 2.

19:04David Yeah, yeah.

19:05Miguel You want to empty them out and recharge them again. Yeah, you use that to charge your phone these next days.

19:11Rob I will.

19:12Miguel So since we finished our first series, we have been, well, working on our normal lives. Let's call it that. But we never stopped thinking about Glastonbury or you, our listeners.

19:33Jessi We've been loving chatting with you all on socials, especially on Twitter. It's been super fun talking about cheese, mud, showers, everything in between. It's been great. And a few of you who got in touch are actually involved with the festival more than just buying a ticket like us, and we've been lucky enough to interview a few of you. Let's start with David, who's signed up as a Worthy Warrior for the second time.

19:56David I'm probably a veteran now. My first one was 2003, so this year it'll be my 14th in a row. Well, Glastonbury means a great deal to me. I think looking back at the memories I've had over the last few years, the most important thing for me is that I've had the most amazing time I could possibly expect to have. And I really do like to give back. I do quite a bit of charity outside and elsewhere, but I've never really worked at the festival. I've considered it, but when Worthy Warriors came about The year it started, I think that was 2016, and I did a stint then and didn't do much last time for various reasons, not through my own fault, but it just didn't happen. So I was really keen to start up again, and one of my friends does it in conjunction with herself, so we really feel it's an important thing to do. And because I've enjoyed the festival so many years, I'm really keen to sort of put something back into it. I just thought that was absolutely ideal because the one thing that really bugs me with the festival is that people don't really care enough about littering the place. I know it's temporary, but it still looks poor when we're all there, as well as sort of like worse things like peeing in the hedgerows and so forth. Not that I've ever been perfect. I have a guilty conscience from the way I was way back when, so I'm trying to rectify that now. But now I'm 100%, I hope, environmentally clean. The main emphasis is obviously to, you know, leave the farm with no trace, so it's to make sure that as much as we can, we spread the word that, you know, environmental consciousness, safeguarding the farm from the point of view of litter and dangerous substances and so forth. So what we try and encourage people to do is to be very environmentally conscious every time that they go to the festival, during the festival, and especially when they leave the festival, they don't leave any of their junk behind. So what we do is We usually have an allocated area and we work around that area, usually at one of the campsites within the festival, talking to as many people as we can, passing recycle bin bags to people, and just really encouraging people to sort of like buy into the, you know, the important ethos that the festival tries to portray. I think that there's one group of people that sort of like blanked me and they weren't interested, and there's only so much you can do. But absolutely everybody else I approached really bought into it. They said, well, we already do that, we're already enthusiastic about it, It's really important to us too. Or other people that perhaps weren't quite so switched on were more than amenable to sort of say, yeah, we'll do it this time. We'll do a better job of it. We'll take our gear home with us. We won't leave anything behind. We won't leave any waste. We'll make sure it's clear. And many people, to their credit, also say, well, we'll check on our neighbours as well and we'll try and encourage them. So ideally, it's best if it's going to be a word of mouth that's spread throughout the festival, which I think it can be. So I think the more people that are doing the Worthy Warrior role, the more the word of mouth can spread and the better and better it can be. And there's no doubt in my own mind that if you have a clean environment, it's much more straightforward to maintain it that way. But when it's really dirty, then it's difficult to really have a concept of, well, it shouldn't be dirty and let's stop it being dirty. So, so like basically when there's litter around, everybody else litters. It's easy, it's more easily done. So I think the thing is to be disciplined and to make sure that most importantly we need to look after what is a wonderful, beautiful rural environment. So I'd really encourage everybody to sort of bear that in mind even though it's hard, especially on the final day, is to maintain a reasonably clean sort of campsite area during the festival so come Monday morning wherever you're leaving then it's not so difficult to tidy up the rest of it, take your tents, take all your gear and leave it in the right condition.

23:43Miguel So that's David with some great advice there. Be clean from the start, people, will make it much easier to leave no trace. So thank you so much, David. And Rob, he did talk about giving back to the community. You are also a Worthy Warrior, so what can you tell us about it?

24:05Rob Yeah, I am. This has actually been my 3rd time as a Worthy Warrior. I signed up for the first time in 2016, and I love that you said giving back to the community because I think at Glastonbury you, you do feel like you're part of that community. Within those walls everybody is kind of, you know, together. So I signed up for the first time in 2016, which was the first time that they introduced the Worthy Warriors, as a way of giving back, you know, as in promoting the greener festival and leaving no trace on the farm, which is something that I'm really passionate about. So in the first year I approached it as being helpful, you know, having rubbish bags and recycling bags always ready, handing them out with people that needed them, you know, just keeping my area, me and the people that I camped with, making sure we were always clean and tidy, litter picking, things like that. Just encouraging the rest of the people that I was with. In the first year, I was kind of finding my feet a little bit. Now in the second year, I was a little bit more prepared. So I took advantage of the fact that if you take a t-shirt along with you as a Worthy Warrior, you can go over to the free press and they will print it for you. So, you know, you can wear your t-shirt with pride. Also, it makes you readily available to those around you as a way of if they do need something. I think people are more aware of Worthy Warriors now. Whilst in and around the camp, if you kind of have that, people know that they can come to you and ask questions. I know a lot of people are getting— get really into it and have made flags, and there's a Facebook group which I'm part of, and, you know, we keep in touch. And it's great to see a lot of those people each year still signing up, so clearly they, you know, they're still really into it. Now with this year, I think I'm gonna go that one step further and hopefully start spreading the message that we all sign up for really as part of the signing up for Glastonbury ticket, you have the pledge, don't you? So we all have that responsibility, but, you know, promoting it is my plan for this year. So I'm going to get there early, make sure I go and collect my bin bags, collect my recycling bags, make sure everybody's got everything they need. But also I've changed my approach to the festival, changed what it is that I'm going to take. I'm a lot more cautious— not cautious, maybe cautious— but I'm a lot more prepared for what I take to make sure that I bring most of it out with me. The more that I can bring out with me, the better that I will personally feel. So hopefully that's something that everybody can kind of be encouraged to do. So yeah, really, I think promoting that thing this year is what I'm working towards.

26:23Miguel Your last point was quite interesting, Rob, and even David, he mentioned this guilt that in the past maybe he didn't do enough, and we're always striving to do even more, to be more sustainable. So have you guys— Rob, you already spoke a little bit about this— have you, Jessi, changed something for this year on the way you prepare for the festival?

26:42Jessi Um, yeah, I mean, I've definitely— after, um, Glastonbury saying please don't bring baby wipes or, or disposable wipes that way, I know in 2017 I, I specifically bought biodegradable baby wipes, but this time I've just gone, right, none of that, no face wipes. Which, uh, it's been difficult because it's not something that you, as a girl, you know, taking your makeup off every day— I'll be honest, probably for the past 10, 12 years of my life, I've probably used a makeup wipe a day to get rid of my makeup, you know. So, um, That started to change towards the end of last year for me when I bought some of these reusable makeup remover pads that you just use warm water on and, and go there. This is the message I've been trying to get across to my friends because it's just kind of been on the list for so many years, if you know what I mean. You're going to a festival, pack a pack of baby wipes. Yeah, so my biggest change is I'm going for the flannel and like a small tub that I can put water in. We already use camp showers, but this is more like a little personal, personal wash bowl. And what else have I done? I'm definitely gonna have more than one reusable bottle with me because in previous years when I have brought one, I have lost it, or a friend has— a friend has acquired—

27:48Rob Borrowed.

27:48Jessi Yeah, borrowed it. So I'm buying— uh, I'm not buying, I'm bringing a couple of those that I have around the house. Yeah, I'd say those are my 2 kind of big eco changes. I've always been one to take my tent home, I've always been one to take my chair home. I've been trying to minimize things for years, but I think the major change was getting out of that mentality of like, you know, going to a festival, using an entire pack of baby wipes to wipe the mud off your legs, you know what I mean? That's kind of just not really even crossed my mind till the debate this year. So how about you guys?

28:17Rob I mean, you make a great point about the single-use thing there, Jessi, and I think that obviously with Glastonbury making single-use plastic bottles and single-use plastic not a thing for this year, I think people— single use is something that people should really embrace in getting rid of in life, just in general. It's so wasteful, and I'm a huge advocate of the flat flannel. I think it, you know, it's, it's multi-use if you like. It's, it's easy to clean. Couple it with my, my shower plan of keeping a bottle in the tent to keep warm, you know, because tents do get very warm during the day. So get the bottle in there, use that, you can clean your face. But at the same time, on those hot days, get yourself a nice cold bottle of water, wet your flannel, put it on your head, wear it as a hat. I was talking about this on Twitter just today. It just cools you down and it's just such a, you know, versatile thing. And then at the end of the day, you can just take it down to the tap, give it a good wash, wring out, good to go. So yeah, flannels for me are absolutely fantastic. Will always use one. The other thing that you mentioned there about the bottles, one of the things that I changed after my first year as a Worthy Warrior was, was the single-use plastic bottles just for decanting alcohol into.

29:18Miguel That was exactly what I was gonna bring because yeah, my first years at the festival, I would just buy cheap 2-liter plastic bottles to decant the spirits and that would go to the bin at the end.

29:28Rob Well, yeah, I don't know about you, Miguel. I mean, I'm gonna be very honest here and say how wasteful it was, but you buy a 2-liter bottle of water water, pour it away so that you can put your, put your alcohol in it. And I just think, God, this is the mentality that I really want to change.

29:41Jessi Mm-hmm.

29:41Rob I mean, there was nothing to say, why not just buy the bottle of water a couple of weeks earlier, drink it, and then use the bottle? But, but since then, I mean, I've, like yourself, I've bought those, those camping bottles, the reusable nice plastic ones. And to be fair, I actually have a specific one for my alcohol now because I don't want to taint the taste of my water. So I have an alcohol one and I have a water I think this is good, guys.

30:04Jessi We're getting our confessions. This is almost like eco-confessions.

30:06David Yeah.

30:07Jessi Because I'm exactly the same as you, Miguel. I— and, and, well, both of you. I used to go into a shop, buy a, like, um, a pack, a multi-pack of cheap water, chuck it out, pour in the booze, you know, write it on the top. And I even, you know, I know that I would be walking around the site and throw it away. So let's call this confession time. The nice thing is that we've, we've made the change and we know what we've done wrong, and that, and that's, that's kind of what this is all about, if you know what I mean. I think that there really has been a change Yeah, in the industry from even last year to this year, um, about more people are talking about it, more people are putting it at the forefront of their festival kind of— not branding, but when they're marketing the festival, they're saying, right, this is something that we're really committed to. And I think that is going to hopefully make all the difference.

30:47Rob Absolutely. Making a change is such a positive thing, isn't it? But the first part of making a change is realizing the bit before it, which is very not positive. So it is about just, you know, realizing what it is you're doing, accepting it, and then That's the thing, isn't it?

31:02Miguel It's the single use, because you might think you left no trace because you brought everything back, but you left a lot behind in the end. Either the wipes or— it's the single use aspect that we need to change. I used to bring this spork. You know, you know a spork, right?

31:17Jessi Yeah, yeah, yeah.

31:19Miguel But I used to bring with me but just use it at the tent. So this year I'm planning to carry in my day pack as well.

31:24Rob Perfect. I mean, I'm keeping a— I was thinking either a plate or a large bowl in a hope that that when I go and buy food, I will hand it to them and have my food in that rather than whatever container. If it's throwaway or not, I plan to not use it, and hopefully they'll acknowledge that and let me use my bowl.

31:43Jessi Yeah, that's, uh, that's something that Oxfam has sort of drilled into me from when I used to do Oxfam festivals. They'd always say, uh, you know, you have to bring a plate, you have to bring a mug, you have to bring cutlery. I haven't done it at every festival, I will be honest, but it's something that I've got. And when I remember and when I'm being good— well, it's more I normally have it with me at festivals, I forget to put it in my backpack for the day. But I have the equipment and I'm prepared this year, and that's what I'm gonna do. I'm gonna have my plate and my spoon and my coffee mug in my backpack with me at all times.

32:14Rob Excellent. Again, it's about just making that, that change, and that's the first step. Make even, even small changes. I think they all count.

32:22Jessi Yeah, I completely agree with that. Like, I think even if every single person that went to the festival produced half as much waste as they would have done say, you know, 2017 or before, the difference that will make will be absolutely humongous. So, you know, you might not be able to— you might go to a store and go, oh, you know what, I forgot my plate, I'll take one of yours. Or you might go to the bar and have to pay for a cup because you forgot to bring one, or something like that. The fact—

32:46Rob Yeah, we're all human, aren't we?

32:47Jessi Exactly, we're all human, we all forget things. But if you can just cut it down by— well, aim for 100%, but if you get to 50%, then I think we're all doing Perfect. Yeah.

33:01Miguel There's an area of Glastonbury where anyone can go and learn more about how you can be more sustainable, which is the Green Fields. We had a chat with Theo, who runs the Green Fields information tent with his dad since 2007. So let's hear from him.

33:24Theo Hi, my name's Theo and I help run the Green Information Tent in the Green Fields. So my first time at Glastonbury was in 2005 when I actually bought a ticket. That was— if you were there, you'd remember it was the year that Penards Hill flooded, so it was quite an introduction to the festival, but I completely fell in love with the place. And then in 2007, after the fallow year in 2006, I was lucky enough that my dad managed to get a job working in the Green Fields running an information tent, basically helping everyone navigate the Green Fields because it's a wonderful area of the festival that is maybe slightly off the beaten track for some. And we've been doing that ever since. I mean, it's a real family affair for us with the info tent, and my mum and sister are involved, and we've had aunties working for us and cousins. And so it means a lot to us, really.

34:13Jessi We all—

34:13Theo it's a time when we all get together and enjoy the festival. I really enjoy working at the festival, especially in the kind of role that we have, because you just— we get to meet so many people. And it's one of my favorite bits of Glastonbury is meeting in new people and interactions that you have. We just sit in our tent all day and people come in and talk to us and ask what they can do, and we get to give them recommendations or help them find stuff. You hear great stories that other people have enjoyed at the festival, and it's an absolute pleasure to do that job. We usually go down as a team the Friday before the festival, which is also a real treat, just seeing the festival come together before it's open. It's mind-blowing how much work goes into it, and you really get to appreciate it when you see everyone scurrying around on the last few days. Well, because we camp in the Green Futures Field, watching Pannant Hill fill up during the day and the excitement and the buzz around the site without the stress of actually having to get all your stuff. Working at the info tent brings up lots of very funny interactions with the crowd, but I always enjoy when people come in asking where the underground piano bar is because it's very enjoyable watching them as I tell them I can't tell them where it is. So that's always quite a— it's a common question that we get multiple times every year and Obviously, we don't disclose such secrets, so that's quite good fun outside of working. The Arcade Fire headline show a few years ago was a real special one for me. The whole info team managed to get off for that one. We closed the tent just before it started and all got down together. They're a band that we've all loved for a really long time, so to get a good spot and be able to enjoy that show and sing along with all that they had going on on stage was really exciting. The other things I just love doing is just wandering around. I'm really getting into The Park the last couple of years. It's got a really great vibe up there, and taking people that haven't been to the festival before around the southeast corner is also a real treat. It's amazing to me after 11, 12 Glastonburys I've been to, but to see new people seeing Block9 and the Unfairground and all the rest of it, I think it's great. We're located on the walk up to the Stone Circle or King's Meadow on the right-hand side opposite the Croissant Neuf stage. We also have a little performing area ourselves called the First Stop. Which is— and the idea is that it showcases a bit of what's going on in the Green Fields. And so we'll have music on there, we have people from the craft field will come and do a demonstration, or some from the healing field will come down and talk about some of their therapies, or we've had a Japanese tea ceremony there. We've had people from Speakers Forum come and do short talks there. So it's a good spot to stop in and have a little look at what's going on before wandering through the rest of the Green Fields. To someone that hasn't been to the festival before, I'd describe the Green Fields as one of the bits of the festival that separates it from other festivals. It's not your big showy performances, it's not your— not that Glastonbury has branding, but other festivals have branded stages. It's just a real natural festival experience and you get to meet people that do day-to-day things in their day-to-day lives that you would just never encounter, whether it's different types of healing or different types of activism or different types of crafts, it will open your eyes when you come down to the Green Fields. You'll learn something and you'll experience something that I think you will struggle to find in any other festival. I think you'll get the same kind of wow and excitement at loads of areas at Glastonbury, but I don't think you get it anywhere else. The Green Fields have always been about sustainability and recycling and activism around climate change, and this year the Speaker's Forum is actually themed around the climate emergency. So there'll be a series of discussions and panels throughout the weekend where guests talked to us about some of the solutions and some of, obviously, some of the problems as well we're facing under climate, with climate change at the moment. And Glastonbury has always had this as part of its ethos. Sustainability is part of its ethos. And there was the stainless steel cups of 2014 that tried to stop people using so many paper cups. The Love the Farm, Leave No Trace initiative was also launched at the same time. And it's obviously making a real effort to people to take home, their tents for goodness sake, and everything else that they bring with them. And then this year, obviously they banned plastic bottles or single-use plastic from sale in all stores, which I think is going to make a huge difference to the amount of waste. And it will be encouraging people to use their reusable cups, their coffee cups if they've got them, or their stainless steel cups. And there's also a push to discourage the use of non-biodegradable glitter. Straws, sauce sachets, etc., etc. So it's leading, in my view anyway, it's leading other festivals down the route that these big events need to be taken. I'd recommend someone who wants to join into the sustainability ethos is to head to the Green Futures Field. There's the Speakers Forum is there with their climate emergency theme this year, but there's loads of other stalls there as well with people with new ideas that you won't come across in everyday life of how to recycle, how to reuse and reduce your impact on the planet. And there are events going on throughout the weekend which we'll have all the information on once we get to the site— we haven't got it yet— of the slightly smaller events or activities. So the Green Futures Field is the place to start, and obviously then Left Field will have all kinds of discussions as well.

39:56Miguel When you come down to the Green Fields, it will open your eyes, said Theo. I must say I really agree with that statement. I think it was you, Rob, that said in a past episode that when you are at Glastonbury, you feel like you're part of something bigger, right? For me, on my first Glastonbury, it was when I got to the Green Fields that I started feeling this feeling. Yeah, the Healing Field. Yeah, of being part of something. This is not just a festival.

40:20Rob Yeah, and I think when people talk about that, you know, there's that subject about headliners and, oh, you shouldn't just be drawn in with the music. It's not necessarily that there's anything wrong with that. I think it's just when you do explore beyond, there's so much that you can find out. And when the journey that it takes you on, it is just so vast and endless. And the Green Fields is somewhere where, you know, the, the whole subject that we're talking about with being greener, hence the name, but, but also doing your thing for the environment and the planet and just really how you can positively get involved. And there's some really, really good ways and, and small things that are easy for you to start with. And that's the real place to kind of explore those ideas and really find out what you can do.

40:54Jessi Totally agree. I mean, I, I think this year I've really noticed— I don't know if you guys agree— I've really noticed an actual kind of change in the way that people are talking about it. Glastonbury has always been green, it's always been promoting that way of life, but I've noticed even my friends are really like, oh, oh, I'm going to take a flannel this year, or oh, I'm going to do— you know, the conversation is happening, and that's a really nice thing to see that it's really coming to life a bit more. Is that just me? Have you noticed that?

41:18Rob No, absolutely. I completely agree with you because I think more and more people seem to be grasping it. Like you say, Jessi, everything that this kind of ethos has been with Glastonbury for a long time, if not forever. But it just seems to be this year that we're noticing a lot more people kind of getting on board with it, which is absolutely what it's all about. So it's clearly working.

41:35Miguel I was going to say, we gave our confessions. So I almost want to say that Green Fields is the place to go to get our penance. But not in that way. It's the place to go to learn how you can do even more and improve the way that you experience not just the festival, but to bring back home really a new way to doing many things, really, to leave less waste and change our ways of— find a better balance in our daily life, really.

42:01Rob Even if it's something as simple as realizing those confessions and not just kind of dismissing them, but actually finding a way to turn them to a positive. And whilst you can't necessarily— what you've done can't be positive, the steps you then take to move forward, they definitely can be positive, and that's what's important.

42:16Miguel But there's certainly still a need for a lot of the festivalgoers to join on this pledge. I mean, every year we see that picture of the Pyramid Field full of rubbish after the headliners, and every year we see pictures of of all the tents left behind. But the thing is, the solution is there, isn't it? Just, just bring back everything you took to the festival. It's not that hard really. And if you think about it, the leave no trace is just a different way of saying do not litter, which should just be the standard really.

42:45Rob Yeah, I think you make a very good point there actually, Miguel. We talk about, you know, having this ethos for being on the farm, leave no trace. Actually, that's an ethos that we should apply to every day, isn't it? And again, I think that's the next step that I've certainly noticed this year and that's where People are being encouraged not just to think of it, leave the, you know, love the farm, leave no trace, but actually love the planet, love your home, love this, this world that we live in. Take it that one step further and go full 365 and take care of the planet every single day.

43:13Jessi That's what I mean. I think, I think it's really good that this year I've really noticed people talking about it more. It's very much at the forefront, you know, various Facebook groups or on Twitter and stuff. And normally the conversation is, what should I pack? And it's all, you know, baby wipes, bin bags, blah blah blah. But actually people were going, you know, beyond that and saying, you know, don't need baby wipes, bring reusable bottles. I don't know, it's just, it's almost like the first thing people are talking about now, which I think is great. Your point about, you know, leave no trace, uh, well, all of our points about leave no trace, I totally get everything you bring in, bring home with you. But if you can't, I mean, I would love to be completely zero waste, I would love to, but I don't think I'm going to be quite there this year, if I'm honest. I am bringing some things that I know I'll probably have to bin at some point, you know, some food packaging, etc., etc. If you do have to bin things, just put it in a bin bag, take it to the pathway, and put it to the side. I think that is— if we all tidied up, even if you can't not bin anything, at least tidy up after yourself, you know what I mean? Make it easier for the people who are taking, you know, having to clear the site at the end.

44:12Rob Any field where, you know, it is rammed with people, there's always going to be litter dropping. Unfortunately, that's just kind of the way it goes, which is why the volunteers and the litter pickers are there. So it's fantastic that that is in place, you know, because clearly there's an awareness that there's going to be litter dropped because you're in such a confined space. It's not always logistically easy to do something like that. But at the same time, if you can keep hold of it, or if, you know, you're walking back and just— if you're walking towards a bin, pick something up. I don't know if that's taking it one step too far, but, you know, it's certainly something I do. So just pick it up on the way to the bin and just chuck it in. It's small things, but, you know, they're the ones that— that's what counts. And that's certainly like I keep saying, isn't it? That's, that's, that's the first step.

44:50Miguel I think it's worth giving a shout that if we have the Worthy Warriors, we also have the heroes from the recycling crew.

44:56Theo Oh, absolutely.

44:57Rob Shout out to those guys.

44:58Miguel Yeah, but what we really want is to diminish their work this year. So I believe the point we are trying to do here is, well, in this episode we learned from David and Rob about their experience as Worthy Warriors, one of the many ways the festival is spreading this sustainable message across the site. We also had Theo who shared how you can join and learn even more about this message at the Green Fields, and I'm sure he'll be there ready to point you into the right direction if you ever get lost. or need to know more. And even ourselves, we gave our confessions of past mistakes and how we left traces behind at the farm, even if not willingly. And I mean, the 3 of us want to be even better this year and in the future. So I think the invitation we want to make to our listeners is to join us on this promise.

45:43Jessi So from us here at GlastoCast, we just want to encourage you to be a bit greener and remind you of the Green Pledge, which we all took when we bought our ticket. So just to give you an overview if you've forgotten, it's just 5 things: take your tent home and all your belongings, use the bins correctly, bag up all your rubbish, use a reusable water bottle, and don't pee on the land. Easy, guys, easy.

46:06Rob This is very important to all of us, and not just because of the fact that it's important for the planet and we have to look after it, it's important for the festival. If we want the festival to continue being granted a license, if we want the festival to continue, then we need to respect it.

46:17Miguel Let's everyone join in in the Green pledge this year. I want to see, I want to see an aerial picture from Glastonbury post-festival showing just the marks left by tents and nothing else. That would be fantastic.

46:28Rob Yes, just flat patches in those perfect— yeah, where the grass has changed color slightly.

46:33Jessi We want like scorched grass and then tent green squares because it'll be glorious sunshine.

46:49Rob So finally, we've got our last interview, um, with Claire. Now Claire is part of the lockups, which is a service that I know we are all very keen to use. It's a fantastic service, uh, it's available 24/7. I won't tell you too much because I'm going to leave that to Claire. Yeah, so here she is.

47:04Claire Hi everybody, my name's Claire and I work at the property lockups at Glastonbury festival. My first Glastonbury was in 2004. My story started when I worked in the same building as Greater Manchester and District CND in Manchester. Jackie, who still works there now and still works on the property lockups, came down one afternoon in a panic needing 2 replacements as she'd had dropouts. I couldn't believe my luck, to be honest, getting to go to Glastonbury essentially free and just having to work 24 hours. Amazing. Over the last 15 years, I've gone from being lock-up crew to team leader to group coordinator for the Manchester lock-ups, and now I'm one of the area coordinators, and I'm responsible for making sure our 361 volunteers all have the correct tickets and vehicle passes. It does get stressful, but I love it. I'm responsible also for Penhard Hill and Woody's Lockup. They're the ones that are run by Greater Manchester, but I also work amongst all the other lockups, making sure everybody's got everything that they need. Do I wish I didn't work? Honestly, no. I like working. I like giving a little and getting a little. It's one of my mottos in life, and having those 4 or 5 hours each day being responsible Uh, actually helps me keep my feet on the ground. I've only ever been to the festival with my kids. I'm not too sure I could trust myself to come without children and without working. So the lock-ups were started about 19 years ago, and we're also one of the reasons why the festival gets its license renewed. Basically, it's a giant cloakroom that you can come and leave anything free of for as long as you like. We open on the Wednesday morning at 8 o'clock and we're open 24 hours a day right through until the Monday morning at dinnertime. How it works is you bring your item— sorry, no livestock or children— come to the front desk, we write you a simple ticket out, we ticket your bag or item, and you keep the other part of the ticket. And whenever you need to come back to collect said item, Bring the ticket back, we look it up in the book, Bob's your uncle. Something that was new a couple of years ago is the Challenge 21 wristbands. This is a wristband that you can get if you're over 18, which stops you having to get out your passport or your driving license each time you go to the bar. You'd come to the lockup with whichever form of ID that you have, we check it over, and then we put usually a brightly coloured wristband Something most punters do is then put their ID into the lockup so they know it's safe and sound until the end of the festival when sadly we all have to go back to the real world. That's what a lot of people use the lockups for, things like car keys, tickets, anything that they need to get home the next day, clean sets of clothes, you name it we've had it at the lockups. There are 14 lock-ups across the site. There's one backstage. Sadly, I don't work at that one. The lock-up crew work a total of 24 hours. Generally, it's 4 4-hour shifts and then one 8-hour night shift. You might go, oh, a night shift! Honestly, it's one of my favourite shifts. You get to see everybody and all sorts come past, and the questions and the banter are just It's one of my favourite times doing the night shift. Something that we've also always done is distribute free toilet roll that gets donated to us by whichever toilet roll company it happens to be that year. We come on the Monday and there are literally pallets and pallets of toilet rolls. Occasionally you may have seen some rather interesting structures that we've made out of toilet rolls. The Game of Thrones The Queen's throne was quite an interesting one. We've made 3-piece suites, chairs, igloos. As much as the night shift is fun, sometimes it can drag a little, and we like the crew to be happy and entertained. Some of the funny things that we've had at the lockups have included a canoe, which, as some of you will know and have probably seen on the famous photograph of wet Glastonbury. We've had a loaf of bread booked in, bottles of water, cider, all sorts. We've also had one wheel booked in off one of the trolleys that people tend to use to bring all the stuff in. To be honest though, that was me after being slightly tipsy after the Twisto meetup on the Thursday. If you don't know what that is, have a look on It's a jolly afternoon. Who runs the property lockups? We all work on the same ethos of having a peaceful, wonderful world, and because of that we have Greater Manchester District CND, which is the one I'm from. We have Isle of Wight CND, Cumbria CND, Yorkshire CND, Youth and Student CND, and then we also have Brighton Peace Education Centre Centre, and Birmingham Friends of the Earth. All those volunteers total 361. As you can imagine, our campsite is quite busy but always very friendly. We all work on the ethos of love the farm, leave no trace, and we encourage all our volunteers to bring the small amount as they possibly can, and anything that they do bring always is taken away. It's one of the things actually I'm quite proud of. Our campsite The campsite is left as we found it, maybe a little bit muddier, and the grass is certainly flattened, but we don't leave anything. It's not hard, people, just take your stuff home. If anyone would like to suggest something that they think the property lockups would be a good place for that to be provided, you can always give us a tweet on @PennardProperty, or you can have a look on Facebook page, which is Festivals Lockups. Hopefully we'll see lots and lots of of you over the course of the 5 days of the festival to come along and say hi, and of course use us to #KeepStuffSafe. Good luck to all you guys coming in. I know it's a bit of a military operation. Hats off to you all. I, uh, will do a little weather prayer so that it's at least not raining. I wouldn't put money on that though.

54:00Jessi Okay, Brilliant.

54:07Rob That was Claire from Property Lockups. Thank you very much for that. And we've actually got to know her quite well, haven't we, from, from chatting to her? What the team does and what, what she manages is just huge. A really essential service that I think we all definitely take advantage of, but what a task to manage.

54:21Jessi So important as well. The fact that they run this service for free, 100% secure, 24 hours manned, you know, you can leave any size object or thing or whatever you fancy in these places is It's incredible. So I think it's one of the things that really sets Glasto apart.

54:36Miguel Yeah, I have to agree. I absolutely love the lockups and every single one of its staff. Every time I stop by the lockup, I end up having just a really nice conversation with the chaps who are running it. It's amazing.

54:47Rob You end up staying a lot longer than you planned, don't you?

54:49Miguel Yeah, exactly.

54:50Jessi You think, oh, I'll just pick up some loo roll or I'll just grab my car keys. And then, yeah, you're having a 25-minute chat.

54:55Miguel It is part of the festival, really. And people use it in so many ways to help them make the most of the festival, be it storing their items on Sunday evening so they can have an easy departure on Monday, using to leave some items around site so you can collect if it starts raining, you know where to get your waterproofs maybe. So yeah, it's amazing.

55:15Rob So it just takes that stress out of it, doesn't it? Not having to worry about your keys, not having to worry about your valuables, knowing that they are incredibly well taken care of. That carefree kind of put it to the back of your mind, enjoy yourself, and then as and when you need it, you know exactly where to go. And it's very, very well looked All right, guys.

55:38Miguel So this conversation has been amazing as always, but I think it's time to wrap it up because we have a festival to go to.

55:45Rob We have a festival to go to. Yeah. It's what, it's a week to go now?

55:50Jessi 11 days.

55:51Miguel As we are recording, but at the time someone listened to this, they could be on their way.

55:56Rob That's very true. People could be listening to the podcast on their way to Glastonbury, couldn't they? Oh my God, how exciting. I love that.

56:01Jessi I love that.

56:04Rob I hope people are doing that.

56:05Jessi Please let us know if you do that. If you're driving down to Glastonbury listening to GlastoCast on the radio, that would be— oh, that would make me so happy.

56:11Rob Yeah, absolutely. Definitely get in touch. I mean, I don't know about you guys. In fact, no, I absolutely know about you guys. We're all going to be on our socials, aren't we? We're all going to be chatting, we're all going to be getting excited. Let's hear about where you are and what you're doing, and hopefully, you know, we'll catch up with you down at the farm.

56:25Jessi Yeah, guys, the next time you hear our voices, you might actually be face to face with us in the Left Field, so exciting!

56:31Miguel That is really amazing. So I think the only thing left to say is, see you at the festival!