One got in. One didn't.

0:00Miguel Hello and welcome to GlastoCast, the unofficial Glastonbury Festival podcast. Well, ticket day is over and Glastonbury 2027 is sold out, gone in under 45 minutes. And this was not a normal sale. They changed how it works, and then between Thursday and Sunday they changed it again. In the middle of all that, the two of us somehow ended up live on BBC, and one of us came out with tickets and one of us didn't. So let's start there. Jessi, are you going to Glastonbury 2027?

0:37Jessi Well, um, at this very present moment, no, I am not going to Glastonbury. Uh, I feel like I don't have a ticket in my email inbox, which is very sad. But, you know, um, I know I'm gonna be there. As I said in one of the last episodes, I know I'll be there. It's just You know, I was hoping to have that ticket and be safe in the knowledge now, you know, still in 2026, that I am definitely going. But there are many other avenues to explore, and that is what I will be doing. And then obviously, if it comes down to it, I'll be trying in the resale in April, uh, and then if not, I'll be begging, borrowing, or just literally asking anybody I know, and I will do anything to get in there. But I know that you had a very different outcome, didn't you, my darling?

1:24Miguel Yes, I did. I was one of the lucky ones. I got through and bought from my group of 6, which hasn't happened in the last few sales, so that felt really good. And also, I did it from abroad, which was new for me. But am I going to Glastonbury 2027? Uh, I'm not fully sure yet. That's what October is, right? You're not really buying a ticket, you're buying a chance. Uh, you pay the deposit and that gives you until April to work everything else out. My goal is to be there though, and I'm working towards that. And I know I'll meet you there either way. I just have to see if I can make it happen come April.

1:55Jessi Miguel, you know that if it comes April and like something comes up and you can't get the flights or you can't, you know, whatever it might be, um, you know, I can always put on a wig and like borrow one of your old IDs. I reckon I could, you know, pass as Miguel.

2:10Miguel Oh yeah, more than a wig, I think you're gonna need some beard.

2:16Jessi You can get a beard wig. I'll, I'll do anything, you know what I mean? Anyway, yeah. It is what it is. It was tough again, and we just wanted to jump on and just kind of give an update because like before the ticket sale, we did a, you know, ticket days coming up. And Glastonbury being Glastonbury, uh, and it's been 2 years as well, they changed the system. So we felt like a lot of what we were saying kind of felt out of date. Um, so we wanted to do a little update and, and I guess even just say, because I'm sure Miguel, you had a similar situation, that for that Thursday coach sale, when it first said, oh, we need to put in your registration number, the panic it caused in my WhatsApp groups. Oh my God. Yes. The panic, the questions, the not knowing if I put my registration in, but I'm trying for you guys and I don't want to go, am I going to have to buy a ticket? The WhatsApp was popping off an hour before. Everyone was asking me questions and I was like, guys, I know as little as you do. Let's just think about what might happen and we're just going to have to think on the fly. So yeah, how was How was that for you when you first, you know, when we first loaded up the page?

3:22Miguel I was kind of aware when I was waiting for the coach sale that we were expecting a change. There was, there were rumors that the friends and family sale happened, uh, before the coach sale. And there were, there were reports that they asked for email, but then of course no one was sure that it was that specific for that sale. No one knew if that meant that the coach sale would also ask for something new, but, uh, I was kind of expecting, try to prepare, but The Coach Sale, if anything, it's funny because it does work as a test for everyone, I guess, for the ones who, like us, who like to follow and be as ready as you can, as we can, and maybe works for the festival as a test run for whatever new system they've been planning. So what happened is, come Thursday, we were faced with the question, before you joined the waiting room, Mm-hmm. which again is a recent addition, you had to enter your registration number, not an email, your registration number. And that's a very interesting change because it makes your registration number your golden ticket to even try to go to the festival. And that, and that meant registration numbers suddenly were a hot currency.

4:35Jessi Yeah.

4:36Miguel First of all, yeah, so I tried the coach sale. I did get through actually at one point, but then Wednesday was sold out already. One thing that we mentioned on the episode we discussed the strategy for the, for the sale is that you have to go into the coach sale with a set strategy. Of course, then when you're there, if you go through, you start doubting your strategy. But I did, Wednesday was sold out. I click on Thursday, let's see what's going on here. And there was a very early coach time and I thought, oh, this could work. Should I go for it? And I clicked on it. I got to the checkout page and then I held myself back. I say, no, all or nothing. I'm not gonna go Thursday. So I decided not to buy. And, and, and the coach sale, I did buy just myself. Uh, that's what, what I usually do because it is a test run for me. It is for me to see what's going on and see if anything changed and potentially get a ticket at the end. Uh, so, so that's what I used the Coach Sale for.

5:32Jessi So yeah, you technically got in twice, which I am jealous of. Yeah, I tried for the Coach Sale as well. And yeah, I think me and my friends very quickly figured out, as I'm sure all of the— again, everyone listening to this, as you said, very quickly figured out that your registration number, when you put that in before you join the waiting room, before you join the queue, that meant that that was Your registration number was locked to your queue ID. So beforehand, you know, we always talked about always one browser, one device, but you could, for example, have like an iPad that was connected to a Wi-Fi. You could have a mobile phone that was connected to 5G. You could have a laptop that might've been connected via Ethernet to a different IP. So you, you, you could use beforehand, you could join and get yourself 4 4 ballot, you know, 4 queue IDs essentially. So 4 queues potential that could move at different times. But we very quickly realized, you know, before the sales started that if you, you know, when you signed in with your registration number, if you went in on another device with that same registration number, you had the same queue ID at the bottom. So it meant that no, the number of devices didn't matter. You weren't, you weren't gonna get more slots in the queue, more spots in the queue unless you had multiple registration numbers. So that was something. I personally have 2 registration numbers. I have an old one that the— if I'd have got through on the, um, and then had to pay with, uh, the photo was very old, so I would have had to update that somehow, or, or, you know, explain this at the gate. But I at least was able to have 2 queue slots up. And for the Coach Sale, mine, uh, my bars— I wasn't in the 2-bar crew on both devices. One of them did start to move slowly after about 8 minutes. But by the time You know, it sold out 22 minutes later, or, you know, 25 minutes in or whatever it was. Uh, mine had barely touched halfway. So, but it, it did give me hope. I was like, I at least moved. Like the last sale with the 2-bar clubs, you know, when we had the original main sale and then the April resale for the 2025 festival, in all of those, I was in the 2-bar crew total. I think on maybe on one of them I got 3 or 4 bars. So after Thursday, we didn't get any tickets. We were trying for 5 teams. Uh, no, sorry. We were trying for 3 teams for the coach team, coach sale, and we didn't get any, but a few of us had had movement. So I was feeling positive. I was like, this is good. It wasn't like the last time we've done this when we didn't, you know, everyone was going, is it broken? Is it broken? Nothing's moving. I was like, I've seen some movement, so I feel more positive. So there's that at least.

8:12Miguel So basically the old game was about multiplying sessions. But the new game is about multiplying people, or at least multiplying registrations. When I was thinking about the whole sale process, it made me think of the fence, the super fence. When you walk along the super fence today, you can see every addition they made throughout the years, a little bit taller there, something bolted on top on the other side, on top of it. None of it matches really. You can see the whole history of being built, and I feel like they're doing the same thing now digitally. bit by bit in recent years instead of fully committing to the best strategy that is available out there. So when they added the queue, I thought they would go full on protections against trying to identify sessions, bots, maybe a CAPTCHA, things like that, like every other big tours do. But then there was no need to log in. And now they added the number, the registration number to get into the queue, but there's no ID check. So you can still collect— extra numbers and use them. So every sale, they add a little bit on top, but never really fully commit. And I really don't understand why. I mean, everyone found the gap straight away. By the end of the coach sale, everyone worked out that the number used to join the queue wasn't needed for booking. So you could go around to your friends and family and ask, hey, are you trying this year? No. Can I use a registration? And that kind of, that was a way to get you an extra chance. They really could have added a simple check, Like for instance, I mean, they added the postcode, but that's not really enough. It should be like a 2-factor authentication sort of thing. So after putting your registration number, it would send a code to the email on that registration, and then you confirm it's really you. So without that, it can really be gamed. And anytime registration opens again, you have to assume they're going to receive, I don't know, billions of registrations from maybe real people, but also— Bots. everyone else, everyone who's going to try resale or even worse, people who use bot farms or whatever strategy to sell tickets and make money on top of it. So they're all going to rush to make thousands of registrations really. So really, yeah. So before you multiply sessions, now you multiply registration and that brings its own problems, I think. I think it was a really weird decision.

10:32Jessi Yeah, I think like that was weird. I think as soon as the sale started, everyone was concerned. am I going to have to use the registration that I have? Because we had quite a few friends helping coach people that absolutely didn't want to come by coach. Like, if they were, you know, they were only going to try for the Sunday sale, but they were like, we'll help you on the Thursday. So they were all panicking, like, when we get through. So that was very much as the sale was happening, we were, you know, me and you were talking and we were looking on Discord, we were looking on Reddit, like, who's got through and can confirm yes, no, we don't need that. So that did feel like, to me, it felt strange. Like, if you're going to do this, then surely that one— I mean, obviously I was grateful that wasn't the case, but It did seem like a weird thing to be like, right, okay, you put your registration one in and that isn't pre-populated as the lot number one of the tickets you buy. Now, I did notice by the time Sunday came around that they'd added you had to put in your registration number and the associated postcode. And I think that was because I saw things as the sale was happening on Thursday, people saying, oh, just, just button bash, just slam in random numbers, you know, just literally go like, oh, 3712, just, just slam something in. It doesn't matter. And because you don't have to buy for that ticket. So I think they then did, you know, the See Tickets, uh, you know, backend team then worked away and added the level to connect the database that was, here is a registration number and here is the, you know, it has to match the associated postcode. But yeah, it, it was between Thursday and Sunday, we were sending a lot of messages to all the people that we had on our spreadsheet and saying, look, hey, are you trying for tickets? If not, can I use your registration? So I think come Sunday, I personally had 4. I had 2 of my own. And then I had 2 very good friends who were like, no, you're more than welcome. But again, I was then worried on Sunday, well, they've now added the postcode. Maybe they have locked it now on the Sunday that you have to buy for that one person on the top. And we all were talking like, well, if that's the case, then why not? Why don't we just buy for that person who doesn't wanna go? Then we get 5 people in that do wanna go. Yeah. And then we cancel that person's ticket and we all lose out on 25 quid or, you know, the admin fee or whatever. So there was all these conversations. My WhatsApp was absolutely going crazy between Thursday and Sunday, um, for all these different, different layers being added in.

12:46Miguel The moment between Thursday and Sunday was a very interesting one. Yeah, I have had a few thoughts on that. Well, uh, first one is they had, they had a whole fallow year to plan for this.

12:56Jessi Yeah.

12:57Miguel So I asked myself, were they reacting live to what was happening? And if they were, that's, that's really bad on them because really, really everyone quickly could see the fault on that decision. Well, the registrations were never really supposed to be secret. It was just a way for you to enter in the website, pull your registration, I guess, quickly. And then suddenly now you, you need to make it as secret as your PIN number, I guess, because it's literally your entry to the sale. Uh, and then when you, when you see that they ask for email for friends and family, uh, registration number for coach, and then registration and postcode for the general sale, is, is how can you not be ready? How can you have not come up with something better? And also they didn't really announce any of that. Uh, and I, I liked I mean, I don't like to think, but I, it feels like maybe that was a conscious decision because they wanted to keep that, uh, hold to their chest because they didn't want, uh, that was, it is, there are reports the last 2 sales, uh, a lot of bot farms or people running whatever they were, they were gaming the system.

13:59Jessi That's it. They didn't, yeah, they didn't want to give people time to, to learn how to get around it.

14:03Miguel But also, is, is this how you go about such a big change? Because you do have the majority of people trying are actually people who want to go to Glastonbury. So I think this is a weird decision to be not communicating. It's weird that they seem to be reacting live to what was happening and they weren't fully ready, or maybe that was the plan all along and it was just, in my opinion, a bad plan. So, and the other thing is, as you just said, as soon as the cold sales happened, people like us, and I guess a lot of people, we start already thinking, how can we improve our chances in this new requirement? And this is always an interesting discussion about, is gaming the system something wrong? Is the system— people always ask, is the system fair? And these discussions are a little bit— I find them interesting.

14:55Jessi Yeah, just on that, I, do you know what? Everybody's asked me like, God, Glastonbury, it's so unfair. And lots of people have said that to me and gone like, what do you think? Do you know what? I have to say, I think that this is really fair. Like, I hate it. Don't get me wrong. Like, I, had years of being like, I know what I'm doing and we can get this done. But from, from the spread of people I know who've got tickets, it is very fair, I think. I think it's— I, I do agree that kind of the adding steps on, either that was planned, but it was a, you know, I agree with you, maybe not the best plan, but they were just changing it each time so that people had an extra thing like, oh, something's changed. You know, they haven't had time to, to, to account for that. But I do think it's very fair. It feels like, you know, About maybe, you know, a 10th of the people that were trying got tickets. And that was fair spread across, are you a veteran? Are you a newbie? You know, have you been twice? Have you been zero times? Have you been whatever? It really felt like an even spread. The one thing I will say that's been a big chat in my group of friends is that we all were like, right, it is fair. We do agree. But we are saying to each other, we do feel quite sad because we feel like never again are we gonna have a group of 20 mates Like, you know, any other festival we can say, right guys, the festival we're all gonna go to this year, we're gonna have a big friendship meetup. 'Cause you know, we are, we are, we are adults. Everybody has lots of things going on, but we all, you know, even as adults, we've all said we like to do a festival together and we will make the time to do that. We do have different tastes in music, so it's very difficult to say, for example, suggest that we go to somewhere like Download that has a very like sort of genre-specific thing. So this year in the fallow year, we all went to Boomtown and had a great time. And Boomtown does sell out, but we could, we were still able to go as a group of 20 to Boomtown semi-easily. It just feels like we're never again going to be able to get all 20 of us there. It's, it's going to be like, you know, 20 to 30 of us apply and 1 or 2 teams might be lucky enough to get through over all of the sales. So like. You know, the lucky 12 will go and that's it. Um, and then there's like the odd person like me that's more than willing to do absolutely anything and will volunteer. So there's normally 3 or 4, 4 of us that will volunteer. But that's the thing that we're most sad about is that it used to be, you know, because we knew, because we'd done our research, we'd organized ourselves, you know, we, we looked online, we knew what we were doing. We could get about 50% of the tickets in. in the kind of autumn winter sales, like the main sales, then in the April resale, we'd be able to get another 20 to 30%, you know, like, so, so a total of 80% would go and the others would, would've by this point said, you know what, I'm just going to go on holiday because I need, I need to organize things in advance, whatever it might be. It feels like it's going to be impossible to get all of us there in this new system ever again.

17:52Miguel Yeah. And then What we have been doing, and we discussed in the previous episode, uh, the syndicates, it still made sense, but I had to adapt to it slightly. And by that, I mean the WhatsApp group I have for what's, uh, for Glastonbury. It started with just my close mates, but then it became friends of friends. And then if I, uh, if I would look to the list of members, there's numbers there, like there's not a contact name. So there's people I don't even remember who they are, who brought this person into this group, right? And before I was fine with that because the, uh, your chances would improve with more numbers of people because everyone could help each other. Uh, but when they made the registration number your entry to the queue, and the, and the thing that you, you mentioned that if you would open a new tab or a new session or use a new device, go to the link during the sale, when the sale is happening, when you're waiting for your progress bar to move and you will use your registration again, you would open your same, the same queue in your new device. So that potentially means someone could steal your position in the queue. So my reaction For Sunday was that I actually closed the group, my, my large group, my WhatsApp group, the one that was full of people that I wasn't really sure anymore who they were. And I sent a message to only the four close ones, which is the ones I, people I took there the first time and people I know and say, well, we're gonna make a smaller spreadsheet here. And even then I said, when the sale starts, do not talk about your queue. Even then I say, because don't say I'm, I'm almost there. That's what the change caused really. I think that what we sort of explained in the previous episode, I think syndicates still make sense because you still improve your odds having more people. There's a— it requires more trust now. Before, you would see users sharing really large spreadsheets on the internet, really, and everyone helping each other. And I think everyone was rushing off after Thursday to find old links, to close them off, to stop the sharing because you would assume people who are running Bot farms and finding ways to trick the system, not like the way we game, in quotes, the system to try to get our own ticket, but people who do it to sell tickets to other people. You would assume they would be trying to farm registration numbers that are out there. So I did go to my Google Drive to see old ones and remove everyone for having access. I changed my strategy for Sunday. I reduced the group. I gave new instructions to everyone. I mean, in a way it became a ballot, uh, with the difference that you still have to wake up and join the queue.

20:33Jessi Yeah, on that, I also, um, changed, you know, I, I went and deleted my old Google Drive spreadsheets. I've, my, my Google Drive has never been posted far and wide. Like I've never posted it on any, you know, kind of community groups or anything like that, but it's always been friends of friends. And I think a lot of them don't go to Glastonbury anymore and, you know, aren't, you know, aren't that sort of bit, but I did go and close the old You know, Google Drive spreadsheets. I had made a new one this year, like a fresh link that was only shared with certain, you know, and then I did start to tidy it up. I deleted a lot of duplicates and stuff like that. So going into Sunday, I was like, right, this, this is different now. And you have to, as you said, it's almost like your PIN number. Like you have to really sort of keep that close to your chest. And particularly when it's paired with your postcode, as you know, as we mentioned. I, on Sunday, I got so close. I was the one Uh, of my— so we, we had one group successful on Sunday, and that was the person who'd never been to Glastonbury before, never tried. And he was in Germany on a work trip, and he was sat in his hotel lobby, and, um, he was the one who managed to get through. But he hadn't been chatty in the WhatsApp group, but like, just because I think he was panicking, he was like, oh God, I'm gonna get through. And he'd never seen the page before, and I think he was just concentrating. So it was a total surprise when about I think it was about 12 minutes in, like 12 minutes past 9, he, you know, he just sent a screenshot and was like, guys, I've got it. And we were like, whoa, okay. So at least we've got one. And that gave us hope. I had been chatting in the group and being like, you know, I'm here. I'm, I know that no one in my group stole my spot, by the way. That's, it just reminded me from what you said. Yeah, I literally had about 4 bars left to go when the sold out message popped up on the sale page. And then all of my friends were like, keep going, it'll be fine. And then I got another bar and then another bar. I was like, guys, it's slowing down. Yeah. But I had the tiniest little gap before it was about to say, you know, it's your turn to enter the page. And then the whole page reset and it said Glastonbury is now sold out for 2027. I was devastated. Every— everybody else was quite far behind me on, as far as that goes. So, so yeah, I, I do think it required very on-the-ball thinking, uh, and strategy changes as we went along. But yeah, I'm obviously very happy that you got, you got through, um, and you got your team.

22:46Miguel I actually went into Sunday quite confident, partly because I got through on Thursday, which was a good sign, but mostly because of how the system had changed actually. You said earlier it felt fair, and from the spread of people you know, I get it. Your friend at a hotel lobby in Germany got through on his first try, and that's great. And I do think that's one massive positive on this whole change. I think at least for this sale, before they adapt or they look for what else to do differently, I think he killed the bots for this sale at least. Yeah. But I also think it gave people like you and me and these Glastonbury aficionados an advantage. For instance, because I've been running Syndicate for years, between Thursday and Sunday, I could message people from previous year or from different groups, et cetera, and go, hey, I noticed you're not in the group this year, or you haven't been chatting. Are you going to be trying? Can I use your registration? I will give a brief explanation what's going on, what's happening, and explain, hey, can I use your registration? It won't affect you. Anyhow, you won't have to do anything else. I just need your okay. I'll take it from here. And most of them say, yeah, by all means, go for it. So I actually, I went to Sunday thinking because I have this and because a lot of people I thought would be caught by surprise because they didn't really announce or made this, this, this changes very public. I felt like I was going actually with way more chances than most. Now think about like for someone doing this for the first time, trying Glastonbury for the first time, they don't even, they're not even gonna know the system changed, but also they didn't know because information wasn't out there or most, a lot of people don't even go looking, but they would get to the page and then, oh, I need my registration. Let me find it. Oh, the postcode. Maybe they organized the group, but they didn't organize as well as someone who's been doing it for so long. Would be able to do. So there'll be smaller groups, et cetera. They had none of that, which we have in a way. So the question is, what's the fairest way to sell Glastonbury tickets? So I guess this one made moves towards being more fair, and I think it would bring a more mixed crowd of newbies and veterans and et cetera. But the syndicate still worked for me. And it paid off.

25:08Jessi I think, I think lots of people were sort of saying straight after the sale, they were like, oh, this is the death of the syndicate and all this kind of thing. I think the one thing to say on that is that it definitely means it's helpful to have it laid out with your friends. I think the most important thing is to be in a team of, of 6 really, cuz then you have a maximum 6 people trying for you. Do you know what I mean? Plus then if you do have friends that can use their old, you know, people you trust and people who are definitely not going. You can then ask them to use their old registrations and things like that. But I do think the kind of, the old system of the syndicate was that, you know, once you've got through for your team, you know, you then have 6 people, well, 5, I guess, because the first one, you know, whatever, but you then have 6 people that can then reallocate their time to helping someone else. But I think because the chances are so low and kind of the number of QIDs that actually start moving quickly, you know, It— what normally happens is in that team of 6, you're lucky if one of them is, is moving at all within the first 10, 15 minutes, you know what I mean? It's very rare that you'll have 2 people that are quite close to the, you know, that get through quite quick. It's very rare that someone will have got through and someone else is like, I'm close behind, I'll try for the next team, do you know what I mean? I do. I don't think it's total death to the syndicate, but I think It is what you were saying there about the the people who do post on like Reddit, Discord. You know, they might have massive communities of hundreds slash thousands of people. I think that is where it now, like the the trust starts to come into it and it starts to be a little bit shady, especially if these things are posted online, as you mentioned, like you know publicly available for people to go and mine, you know farm the the the data from. Anyway, I I think the main thing in the resales is to. If you're in a team of 2, see if you can find anyone to make that up to a team of 6, because that is when you're going to have 6 people trying rather than just 1 or 2.

27:12Miguel So that's what happened. Glastonbury redesigned the ticket sale without really putting new thought into redesigning the registration. So what they do with registration next, that's the thing to watch really. Are they going to open? Are they going to keep it closed? Is the resale going to be the same system? Well, we're going to be watching very closely. Saying that, if you got tickets, don't forget the balance is due in April. If you didn't, there'll be the resale, that for sure will be happening. And also there's volunteering. We covered that in the past and it's time for an update. So we're doing a whole episode on it, especially as Jessi did it last year with Oxfam. And that's your next plan, right, Jessi?

27:50Jessi Yeah. So that's my next plan basically is to go for Oxfam. I unfortunately don't have priority. Some of you may have heard the word priority kind of bandied about when people talk about Oxfam volunteering. Obviously, Glastonbury is their most popular volunteering position, and what Oxfam do is if you do— I believe it used to be, I think they've changed it a little bit now to be a point system, which I don't totally understand, so I'm not going to try and explain it to you now. But it, it, it works out to be if you do 2 weekend festivals volunteering with Oxfam the year before, then You will be then put in the priority volunteering for the following year. So say this year in 2026, if I had worked 2 weekend festivals or perhaps a weekend festival and a few day festivals with Oxfam, it is done on a point system now, then I would be given priority access for 2027. And it means that 2 weeks before the main allocation opens, you get to go in and secure your Glastonbury place. So there are always some non-priority Glastonbury volunteer positions available with Oxfam, but there are not very many usually. So it is really fastest finger first, and that is what I am really hoping that I can manage again. That's what I managed to do in 2025. In February is usually when the volunteer positions open for non-priority. So yeah, so I'm, I'm hoping that I'm gonna be fastest finger first. I do have a, a fellow Oxfam friend who said she would help me. Yeah. Um, and she's done this before with her friend as well, so I'll have 2, you know, I'll have it. I'll have an assistant who's gonna have my login and be hoping to get me fastest finger first as well. And yeah, and let's just pray I get in that way. And if not, then I would love to do another year volunteering with Oxfam. Honestly, I so enjoyed it last time. Uh, I did get early shifts last time, which obviously was the cherry on the cake. That was amazing. I severely doubt I would get that again, but you never know. Um, but still, even just normal volunteering with Oxfam, I would absolutely love. So that, that's my, my next on my list.

29:56Miguel Awesome. And another cool thing that happened since our last episode and during the sale is that GlastoCast was in the news.

30:02Jessi Yeah, we had a bit of a mad week last week, which I'll tell you what, adds to— well, very much did, sorry, add to the stress of ticket week. I, well, we got a message on Instagram on, I think, the Wednesday from BBC Radio Somerset, and they messaged saying, hey, would anybody from the podcast be able to speak to us just to do a prerecorded interview, uh, for our news segment that will go out just before the sale happens tomorrow on Thursday. And I had some time, uh, and I was like, yeah, okay, yep, I'll, I'll do that, no problem. And so I got a call, you know, an hour or so later from, um, a lovely gent from BBC Radio Somerset. And then he sort of gave me an idea of the questions he was going to ask, and then we did a little pre-recorded interview. So he pressed record, he asked me the questions, and he said that was And I thought, okay, brilliant. That's that done. Then on the Thursday after the sale happened, I get a message from my friend going, oh my God, you're famous. And they had sent me a link to the BBC article, the main BBC News article about the Thursday sale and how it had sold out in 25 minutes. And that article was basically, you know, explaining what happened in the sale. And then immediately it was a picture of me. Um, and then it mentioned GlastoCast, the podcast. And then it used a number of my quotes from the radio interview. So I didn't know this was gonna be turned into an article. So I was like, this is so cool. I'm really excited about this. I thought it was just gonna be my voice on BBC Radio Somerset. And I think what happened then is that lots of different areas of the BBC, or maybe I was then in the BBC's database for Glastonbury Lover, then GlastoCast got a number of emails over the next kind of 24 hours on the Friday. From BBC One was the big one. So the news program on Sunday, so BBC News on BBC One on Sunday morning, like kind of BBC Breakfast News, I guess. Then also Radio 5 Live. And then I got another one from a different news kind of segment. So it all, it just kicked off. It was loads and loads of news things. And I panicked on the Thursday night when I got the one saying, hi, would you like to come on live on BBC One via, you know, a Zoom link? Via a video link.

32:16Miguel And the main thing, they were asking you to come live 30 minutes before the sale. Yeah,

32:21Jessi yeah, yeah. They said at 8:30 on Sunday morning, will you join us on live news? And I was panicking, like mainly because, I don't know, being live on TV is very, very scary. I was thinking, gosh, what if I do something stupid and I become a meme? All the things were going wrong in my head. I was like, God, this could be so awful. But the producer called me and we had a chat and she kind of steadied my nerves about it. And I was like, you know what? Let's do it. Why not? When is this ever gonna happen again? So I said yes, but I did say to her, like, I— the sale is my priority here. Like, I need to be off the news by like 8:45. And then she told me, actually, it might go on till 8:55. Would that be okay? And again, I almost said no. And I was like, okay, fine, I'll still do it. So I did a radio interview at 7:40 AM on Radio 5 Live, which actually— turned out to be a nice little— it kind of warmed me up and calmed me down on Sunday morning. I had to get up at 6 AM, had to put some makeup on before the BBC, and then set up, you know, my ticket sale kind of, uh, desk, I guess. Then I did the— yeah, the BBC Radio 5 Live, then the BBC One, which was so scary. I've had friends send me videos and things. I'm like, I'm quite proud of myself. It went better than I expected. I feel like I wasn't too much of a deer in headlights. Then the sale happened, and, you know, I was a little bit sad for half an hour, um, trying to hold it together. But I then, you know, me and Miguel were messaging, found out Miguel got tickets at about, um, I think it was about 10:30, 11 o'clock. Uh, I then get a text message from one of the producers that I'd been talking to at BBC One, and he said, oh, Jessi, just checking in, did you manage to get tickets? And I said, oh, sadly not. And he was like, oh, I'm really sorry about that, but do you know anyone that did? 'Cause we're looking for someone to come on BBC News at lunchtime. And that's when I messaged Miguel, 'cause I was like, well, then we could get 2 people from the podcast on. And I pitched, I sort of pitched that to this guy, the BBC producer, and said, hey, well, I didn't, but my co-host did. So that might be a nice, you know, if we both come on, we can have the 2 perspectives of has tickets and has not. He was really up for it. So I had to then go to Miguel. I feel like you were a bit scared at first. How did that feel when I asked you that?

34:48Miguel Yeah, yeah, I was. Well, first of all, you're much better at this kind of things than I am to come live and anyway. And also I was in Brazil and the time difference, so I was awake since 4 in the morning. And when you text me about this new invitation, I was literally about to jump into bed and, and then, uh, but that, but then it was, yeah, the, the way when you said, if I go with you and I hold you by your, by your, by the hand, would you do it? So, okay, let's do it then. Because then I think it would be very, I couldn't say no to both of us coming live and, and, and hear them introducing us, uh, just to hear from BBC presenters, uh, GlastoCast, the unofficial Glastonbury Festival podcast. It was just wild. So I said, we have to do it again.

35:37Jessi It was very cool. I feel like I guilt-tripped you a bit. I was like, Miguel, I've done all of these interviews and I've got so much press for the podcast. Come on, you've got to step up and do it as well.

35:46Miguel Yeah, no, no, not at all. Not at all. I will still push because I think you're the best one to do it. But to have this, as you say, both perspectives to come just after the sale when everything is very fresh and the discussion is happening, couldn't say no to that chance, actually. Yeah, that was super cool.

36:05Jessi Yeah, it was really cool. And I think, you know, most people won't realize that when you do those interviews, I didn't know until we did it, when you do those things, you don't see the studio. So you are looking at a blank screen basically, and that you can hear the audio obviously, but you're looking at a blank screen that just says, you know, BBC News, please look at your camera. And so it was after I'd done that and, you know, I'd put do not disturb on all of my devices and then, you know, finished the interview and my friends were sending us pictures. It was so cool to see, like, The BBC News presenter, my face and your face, and then underneath saying, you know, Glastonbury ticket sale today. It was a really cool moment. It was really cool to see it all come together like that.

36:43Miguel Yeah, yeah. I think that under my name they wrote, Glastonbury superfan who did get tickets.

36:50Jessi Yeah, yeah. And then mine, it said, Glastonbury superfan who didn't get tickets. I was like, brutal, but thank you.

36:56Miguel And also fun that, not fun, but interesting that our segment was in between 2 segments about the Brazilian elections that were happening the same day. So So yeah, on last Sunday I got my tickets and went to try to save democracy as well. And the presenter did say that in the end, which was fun. Yeah,

37:13Jessi it was very, very cool. I think it was a cool thing to do. I'm glad we did it. The one thing I will say is I had a tech meltdown on the second, on that interview with Miguel. I have like this fancy gimbal tripod thing that twice while we were live decided to, the gimbal just like lost power. And then so I had to like catch my phone. So I did look a little bit That one was the one that I haven't been able to watch back, 'cause I, I, the, the first one I'm like, no, okay, I can watch that back. I feel like I answered the questions well, but I'm still too embarrassed to watch the second one back. But I have got a recording of it, so I will at some point. The one thing is that lots of my friends have said since, they're like, oh my God, you, you know, do you think the BBC will get you on as a presenter? And, um, I, I have to say afterwards in the, uh, in the WhatsApp chat with this producer, with Miguel, I did say to him, I was like, if you need anyone to present at, you know, to be on the ground at Glastonbury, you know, I'm your girl. Or, you know, I can, And he replied saying, if you knew the queue at Broadcasting House of people who want to be at Glastonbury, he was like, unfortunately, that's not going to happen. But other people have messaged saying, surely Emily Eavis will give you a ticket now. And I'm like, I don't think it works that way, unfortunately, but you never know. Emily, Emily, if you're listening, I'll happily do anything for you. I'll report for you, whatever you need.

38:29Miguel I'll tell you what Emily can do, Jessi, or anyone listening. Go to our new website. It's online now with new page for every episode, transcripts, uh, there's chapters now and much more on the way. And there's a whole new contribute section. So go to glastocast.co.uk/contribute and send us an audio clip. Tell us how your sale went, what you think of the new system, what you think they'll do next maybe. And, and it comes straight to us and it could be, it could be featured in the next episode. That's glastocast.co.uk/contribute.

39:00Jessi Yes. Miguel is amazing at web design and has spent some time the last month or so Totally updating the website. There's even more bits coming that we're just finalising in the beta version, and we are hoping to post those BBC clips on the website when we get that beta. So there's—you'll be able to watch those back if anyone is interested and would like to see us being a bit silly on BBC News. So this was just a little episode just to update you on how our ticket day went and just to discuss the new system and what kind of panic it wrought in us and our groups. But we are going to be doing some more episodes. We have some guests lined up. The next episode, uh, we'll be recording hopefully very shortly, and that is with some Oxfam volunteers. So we're gonna do, um, a particular episode just on Oxfam volunteering, mainly about what that is, what the shifts are like. You know, people who— we've got some people who have done it for years, um, and have some great stories to tell. And then we're hoping to do some future episodes on different forms of volunteering as well. And there are a couple of other guests in the works that I'm working on, uh, so we shall see. But Miguel, thank you so much. It was so good to chat to you again. And yeah, let's keep the hype up for 2027.

40:12Miguel Thank you, Jessi, and bye. Thanks for listening, everyone.