Glastonbury 2027 starts with a spreadsheet.

0:00Jessi Hello everyone and welcome back to GlastoCast, the unofficial Glastonbury Festival podcast. It has been a while. This is our first episode of 2026, but we're back because the Glastonbury fallow year is over. We've got through it, summer is done, and the hype for 2027 is starting up now. Ticket day is upon us quicker than we expected. We'll come on to that, but Anyway, I messaged Miguel. I knew it was time for us to get back into this. And yeah, let's get going. How are you doing, Miguel?

0:34Miguel Hey, Jessi. Good to be back. And as you said, we received short notice this year. They announced ticket day is back to October and it's only a few weeks away. So suddenly we find ourselves scrambling to get the band back together, to remember exactly what we have to do to get this very difficult ticket.

0:55Jessi Yeah. So on that, this episode is going to be all-around ticket day, what that means, what our experiences are, what's changed. But we have to say up front, this is not a how to get a Glastonbury ticket episode. There is no golden goose, there is no backdoor entrance, there is no guaranteed way to get yourself a Glastonbury ticket. So that's not what we're here to do today. We are just going to talk about how it's been, how it is now, potentially some sort of tips and tricks. And, and actually, one thing we're going to talk about is actually mistakes to avoid, uh, which is quite a big thing, and we'll come on to that.

1:33Miguel Glastonbury do require you to go and do some research and do some learning. Uh, you always see a week before the festival someone posting a question asking how to get tickets, and you need to start getting prepared so many months before the festival. And that's what we're going to be touching upon on this episode.

1:52Jessi But before we do that, as this is our first episode of 2026, I thought we'd just do literally a really, really quick catch-up. Miguel, I know you've had loads going on and I won't, you know, share your own news, but tell me, what have you been up to in summer 2026?

2:07Miguel Well, I guess it was my sadly first festival last year since 2010. I did not, I'm very, very different from you. I did not attend any festival this year. Uh, that's mainly because I moved away from UK back at the end of July. Which is when I guess festival peak season was about to start. Even though I started the year planning that I will be going to a lot of festivals because it was the fellow year, uh, things took a turn and I'm not in UK at the moment. Uh, but I, I set the goal, the plan that I'm coming to UK for next summer for to do Glastonbury and potentially Boomtown, Shambhala, all the festivals. So even if I'm not back in UK, I'm planning to be there for couple of months next summer to do a festival season. It's just going to be way more costly. And well, and that's another topic we'll be talking about in this episode, which are the costs. But on your end, Jessi, I know you've done your usual festival season. So which festivals you attended, which one was your favorite? Tell us about it.

3:13Jessi Oh yeah, we've been talking about this. We might have to crowdfund you some flights from Brazil to the UK, mightn't we? And yeah, I have to say I was at BST this year and I had this moment of like, oh my God, maybe Miguel's here. Maybe you get— and then I went, no, No, he's not here this year. No. So you were missed, you were missed. I know you normally work at BST. Um, what festivals did I do? Okay, well, the, the rundown, I'll do it quickly. Shindig Festival in May, then I did Mighty Hoopla, then I did some day festivals. So I did, um, Alanis Morissette and The Offspring at Crystal Palace Park, then I did Duran Duran at BST, then I did Stowaway, Boomtown, and Shambhala on the bounce. That was Well, there were weekends off in between, but they felt like they were one after the other. Um, and then I finished by going on a nice holiday to Portugal. I have to say, this summer was amazing. All of those festivals were good. Like, in summary, Boomtown— Shaggy played on the Lion's Den, followed by Scooter, which was incredible. Uh, and Vengaboys as well, also on the Lion's Den. And like, lots of, you know, Boomtown's always madness with all the small venues and things. Um, Shindig was really, really brilliant. I hadn't been for a couple of years. They'd moved to a new site last year, I think. I loved it before, but I'm a full Shindig convert now. And Shambhala, I missed out on Shambhala last year. I couldn't make it. So this year going back, it just reminded me how, how wonderful it is. But yeah, summer 2026 was amazing. I had a lot of fun going around the country. Lots of different festivals. I missed Glastonbury, of course, but it was, yeah, really, really good.

4:45Miguel So yeah, tickets soon. What do we know, Jessi, about the sales?

4:50Jessi Um, what do we know about ticket day? So, um, ticket day has been announced for October, the first sort of Thursday and Sunday combination in October this year, which the last couple of years it's been in November. That was kind of a COVID hangover that they pushed it to November, and it's now been pulled back. So the dates are— I am just triple checking— yeah, the coach sale will be on Thursday the 1st of October at 6 PM, so just after work. Well, most people's work, you know, after office hours. And then the general admission sale. So the main sale is Sunday the 4th of October at 9 AM, which everyone loves after a big Saturday night out. So that's one thing. Um, one thing to really, really be aware of is that registration closes on Friday the 25th of September. So that is coming up super fast. So if you haven't registered already, or if you need to check your registration or change anything, you need to do that before Friday The 25th of September. Um, talking on price, it's £408 total, which includes a £5 booking fee. Then you do have to pay postage and packing, which they don't say how much that is, but I just can't remember it being loads. And one thing that lots of people picked up on this year is that the deposit has doubled. So in previous years, for as long as I can remember, it's been £50 deposit payable per person. That has now doubled to £100. So that's quite a bit of a difference. So you're gonna have— if you're buying for all 6 people, you're gonna have to have £600 ready and available in your bank account. And so that means the balance is then the £308 and the postage and packing, um, which is paid in April. So you've got a bit of time to save up for that one, and it's only available through SeaTickets. That's a lot of information.

6:37Miguel To be honest, I also thought the deposit doubled, but then I looked into it. Apparently the last 2 years were 70— last 2 sales were £75 already, so It didn't necessarily double, but it did, it was £50 for, I don't know, 15 years, then it went 2 years of £75 and now it's £100.

6:55Jessi Right. Thank you. Correction. I needed that.

6:58Miguel So yes, Glastonbury is a very different sale where you do need to go into the website, register beforehand, uh, upload a photo of yourself. So this is one of the things a lot of people miss because they start thinking of, they just see when it's gonna be the sale and they think it's got, it's like going to buy tickets to, I don't know, a Taylor Swift tour where you just happen to show up on the day. So no, Glastonbury Glastonbury do require this bit of preparation beforehand, so make sure you register.

7:24Jessi But before we get into that, um, like the actual how the queue works and how ticket day works, etc., maybe should we talk about some of the boring bits before ticket day? I know one that, like, I, I really, um, talk about is, you know, things that can absolutely ruin it is having the wrong postcode written down for your friend, or having the wrong registration number is out by a digit or something like that. Now, this is where I start to sound like a bit of a dictator with my syndicate, which again we will touch on, but I would really recommend having a document, a shared document, but that only one person has edit access to. And I would check that document over and over and over again. So I would get your friends to send you their registration Even forward the email just to be absolutely sure, or send a screenshot or something like that. Copy paste, sometimes you can accidentally add in a digit or something. Get each of your friends to send that and put that onto this shared document. And when it is absolutely sure that it's absolutely correct, then lock it down. Make sure, because sometimes people when copying and pasting, they can accidentally knock things off. And, and that is the thing that is really gonna— when you're In that moment and you're putting it— you've got through the magic, you know, you have got the pass-through to the ticket page, it's loaded, it's ready, and you are stressed. You're copying and pasting those 6 different, um, 2 things per person as well. So you're copying a postcode and a registration times 6. And then if you press through to the next page and it goes, eh, eh, one of these is wrong, the stress that that causes— you're having to message that person, why is a registration wrong? What's going on? That is my number one thing, is that absolutely triple-check your, um, registration is the exact one that's on your Glastonbury registration page, official page, because sometimes you might have moved house, sometimes you might have moved your— used your parents' house for some odd reason because you might have been away one year. Um, so triple-check that the— you have updated your postcode to the correct address, and then triple-check that your details are correct when you share them with your team of 6.

9:34Miguel Any wrong action, postcode entered wrong and you press forward and it doesn't find any registration, can put you back at the queue, can kick you out, can block everyone's registration. That stuff that happened in the past, of course, every year is kind of a mystery how much they change the system. So you, you need to, that part to be flawless. And that means you shouldn't also be joining more than one group of 6. Because if you are in the group who's lucky to get tickets at the same time, someone else from another group you're in when you shouldn't, might block their attempt because it's gonna say you already got a ticket.

10:12Jessi That is the number one cardinal sin. There is someone that I am not friends with anymore because they did this. Um, so just to explain this a little further anyway, is that if you invite someone into your team of 6, you have to explain to them that they are in that team of 6. And when they try for tickets, they have to try for the whole team. They can't just say, oh well, I've got through and I've only got enough money to pay for me and my boyfriend, so I'm just gonna buy our 2 and the other 4 will be fine. You are in a team of 6. You have to get all of the people in that team, and you cannot say, oh, my, my work friends are also in a team, so I'll put my name in that hat as well. That is— well, I mean, you can do that, like, it's not illegal, but it is the ultimate dick move because As Miguel was saying there, if you do that, say like you have a friend that has joined your team and they say, yeah, yeah, yeah, I'm in your team, that's fine. And then you are on the ticket page, you're putting all 6 registrations in, you press through to the next page, it then comes up with red letters underneath that person and says, this ticket has— this person's ticket has already been purchased. And then it means you have to remove them, you have to try again. Basically, with the ticket sale, every step forward you make, you have to pray that you get there. And Any step can push you back, and that means you might lose that connection. You may end up not getting tickets. I've had, uh, this, this friend that I'm now not friends with. He put himself in with some work friends, got a ticket. Really, you know, I messaged him going, what's going on? Like frantically trying to do it. We tried to remove him from the group and then go through again, and it kicked us out in doing that. So then that, that whole team, those other 5 people didn't get tickets because of that one person's Selfishness. As I said, it's not illegal. You can do it, but it is, it's the cardinal sin of being in a team for Glastonbury is that when you are in a 6, you are in that 6. You are not in multiple 6s. You are not putting your finger in every pie to maximize your chances. That is selfish and that is not very Glastonbury.

12:13Miguel Yes. And we keep mentioning queue. And I guess maybe we can jump into this now. That's, that's a new word for the Glastonbury sale, or like a recent word.

12:23Jessi So just to explain. Uh, the waiting room opens before the time. So if it's 6 PM, the sale for the coach sale— I, I don't know the exact times because they don't tell you, but it normally is 15 minutes beforehand. You join the website before 6 PM, and the same 9 AM on Sunday, you join the waiting room before 9 AM. And then as soon as 9 AM ticks over, you get allocated a random place in the queue. Um, if you join after 9 AM, you will— or 6 PM, you will join the back of the queue. So you definitely want to get in there beforehand so that you might— you may get allocated far up in the queue. But, you know, I'm sorry I interrupted you, Miguel, but the one thing I wanted to say is that the annoying thing about this queue is that they do not tell you the number that you are. Um, yeah, like, so for like the Oasis tickets that you mentioned earlier, Um, you know, it logged in and it told you, it said you are number 285,000. And, you know, you would see that number and you'd kind of go, all right, okay, I've got somewhat of a chance, or I've got zero of a chance. You know, we've done it for lots of different tickets, me and my friends. Sometimes, you know, there's 10 of you trying and one of you gets that elusive, like, under 5,000, and everyone celebrates, like, you're at the front, it's gonna be fine. But with Glastonbury tickets You are allocated a random place in the queue and you will not find out where you are in the queue. You just have to sit and wait.

13:49Miguel Uh, and it's also a bit weird why they're not making some sort of registration like in Ticketmaster. You, you really log in first with your account, and if you log in into another computer, it kind of kicks you out or you, it tells you, hey, we are already in the queue. Glastonbury hasn't decided to do that yet, but of course people are waiting. Not sure if dreading, uh, but I guess I, I don't like this, this new system where they implemented the queue, but also didn't fully implement the queue. And in a way, I feel like if they would show the numbers, a lot of people will drop then. And, and the ones who persist might, might get a better chance.

14:29Jessi I'll say that I use the term syndicate and I have my syndicate that I am the dictator of, which I'll explain, has been going for years and years now. And all it basically is, is how we've mentioned, it's a shared document that everyone can access but is locked and I am the owner of. I group my friends into teams of 6 and I just name them Team 1, Team 2, Team 3, whatever. So everyone is allocated into their groups, usually with like— I try and do it with like their friends, their couple, you know, like I don't put— well, anyway, it depends who's in, but I do try and group them, you know. It's not like a— I don't— some people do like a random allocation, but no, I want sort of couples to be with couples. That kind of thing. But anyway, it's always— it's all worked out. I've never had any complaints. But so we group them up into teams of 6, um, get everyone's registrations. I always, um, save, you know, duplicate the document or duplicate the sheet year on year. So I have people's registrations saved from the previous years. Um, I normally have like a week window before the sale where I say, right, is everyone— could everyone check their registrations? If you've had any changes, send them to me, etc. And then, yeah, so how it basically works is, and it does still work the same in principle with this new system, kind of, is everyone tries for their own team first. So when the sale goes live, everyone's number one focus is for the team that they are in. So there are at least 6 people trying for each team and I'm very strict with that. All of those people have to be online. Like, I, I get people to tell me, like, if someone's like, oh no, I'm on a flight during the sale time, they have to tell me in advance and they have to be apologetic about it. And they have to discuss it with their team and say, look, you're a man down because of me. But there's no, oh, I woke up hungover. There's no, oh, I'm whatever. It's if you're on the spreadsheet, if you're in a team, you will be online for both of the sales. Yeah, you will be online for both of the sales, even if you're not trying for the coach sale. So that's number one rule. Um, the idea is that you try for your first team first, and hopefully one of those 6 people will get through, whether it's you or whether it's someone else on your team, it doesn't matter. Then when that sale has gone through, those 6 people have tickets, usually in the WhatsApp group we get them to share a screenshot to say, hey, team 2 has been sorted, here is the screenshot. Then you do not go offline and have a coffee, you do not go back to bed, You keep on trying for other teams on that list, and this is where it should start to snowball. So, say 2 of the teams get through, that is 12 more people that are trying for the other, I don't know, 16 people that are still on the list. And, you know, some people say to me like, oh, but do you tell them who they have to try for next? No, we just leave it up to them. Like, they can pick the team that they try for next that's not, not been sorted. But anyway, that's, that's by the by. So, this is where it should— and definitely in previous years before the new system, this used to work very well because— anyway, I don't, I don't want to dive into this because it's not relevant anymore, but it used to be, I'm sure, that once you were through once, it felt easier to get in again. So someone who'd got through and got the tickets, if they refreshed like another 20 times, sometimes they would get back into the site again. I don't really feel like that's the case now, but still, with this new system, it does still apply numbers-wise that there are now 6 people got their tickets, and all those 6 people shift their efforts to someone else. So now another team has 12 people trying for them or however many. Um, and that is how the sort of syndicate works. But the main things to be, uh, I'm going to repeat myself, is to just triple check those registrations and postcodes are absolutely correct. Triple check that everyone is online, triple check that no one is double dipping and putting themselves in another group. Um, and, and that's about it really.

18:19Miguel So the one true hack to Glastonbury is organization and Excel spreadsheets.

18:25Jessi Yes, shared Google spreadsheets. Not that, you know, or your spreadsheet provider of choice. Yeah, and that's why I said I was a dictator, because that's like— the people do call me the dictator of our Glastonbury because, because I'm like, there are rules, I set them, it has worked in the past, I know what I'm doing, this ain't my first rodeo. You either abide by the rules or you go to another syndicate. That all the rules make sense. I'm not a dictator for the sake of it. I'm very left-wing in my life, as everyone knows, but this is the one thing where I'm like, there is no, there's no second chances. There's no fuck-ups allowed. Like, you know the rules, you obey the rules, and you do it right. Otherwise you feel my wrath.

19:06Miguel Every year I do like a cleanup as well. I started doing that when I realized when you look at the members and a lot of people are just numbers because it's just someone that someone asked them How can you add this person? They're gonna try Glastonbury. They're gonna be in my group, which is kind of fine, I guess, because you, I'd rather see complete groups of 6, right? Because you understand that's the best way of doing it. And, and if the person is, is on it and organized, potentially it's an extra person trying for you even. So, uh, but then at one point the, the group starts getting too big and with people that I don't even remember who they are. So usually I do the yearly cleanup. Uh, it's good. It's already a first good check to find out who's paying attention, like, or react to this message if you're going to be trying for tickets this year. And those who don't react, I just start kicking them. I give maybe a second warning. Uh, so yeah, I do some, some sort of yearly cleanup.

20:04Jessi I did that last time and, uh, I had someone message literally 30 minutes before the sale and say, Oh, why am I not on the list? I'm trying this year. And I was like, well, you didn't say anything in all the times that I tagged you and all the times that, you know, sorry, I'm not adding you now. I'm not, I'm not messing with the document 30 minutes before the sale. That is bad doo doo. That is.

20:27Miguel I think I had people ask me after the sale even happened, like, you doing your Glastonbury thing this year? You say, you mean last week? Oh, it happened already? Which is fine. Some people just don't, maybe don't have the same connection we have, and that's okay.

20:43Jessi Yeah.

20:44Miguel But it has happened that the person who was giving me, annoying me the most was the one, was the first one to buy ticket. And then especially if it's, if someone who was new that year and you can feel that they're thinking, oh my God, this guy takes this too serious. It's just a ticket. But then of course that person is the one who's just gonna buy ticket very easily and they're gonna think, see, Yeah, that happened.

21:08Jessi My cousins from New Zealand, they would— they— I, I don't know if this is true, but back in the day, I'm like, you know, 5, 7 years ago, I swear it was easier if you were overseas to get tickets. But anyway, my New Zealand cousins, the younger of them said to me like, oh, me and my older brother are gonna try and get tickets for Glastonbury. And I was like, oh. And I, I think I either sent them a voice note— I know I must have like had a phone call with them— and I was like, right, this is what you need to know, blah blah blah blah blah blah blah. And I got a message on ticket day at 9:02 from my cousin saying, I got the tickets, I don't know what you're on about. And I was like, no. Right, let's, um, should we talk about Coach Sale? So I mean, the news, I mean, before we explain what it is and what the difference is, etc., but I, for the first time of any of our regular listeners, I'm actually going to try for Coach Sale in the first sale this year. I've never done that before because I am very much, uh, an overpacker, a bring-the-kitchen-sink type person. But, um, because of how badly me and my friends did in the, in the sales last year, uh, in the, in the first, in the, in the sort of autumn sales, let's call them, we got zero out of however many tickets. We didn't even get a single ticket in October, November, whenever it was. So because of the— in the coach or the main sale, I mean. So because of that, this time I absolutely have to be there and will do anything. So I've decided that yes, I will do coach sale this time. I think it's mainly because me and my friends have been talking that we're gonna do glamping this year, or a form of it. We're going to do either the Stick Lynch or the Worthy View, um, kind of the, the Glastonbury own offerings of tents. So that would make it easier when, when coming by coach. But, but yeah, Miguel, do you want to explain what the coach sale is and, and, and kind of why it matters and why you need to make that choice?

23:02Miguel Yes. So I always historically tried the coach sale, which is an additional sale that happens on Thursday. So before the big main general sale on Sunday, it's a reduced number of tickets. Uh, there's no official information of how many tickets. So the festival itself organizes coach departures from different points around the country, and the idea started as a way to promote green traveling. And I say it started because of course then people saw it as an additional chance at getting tickets. The important bit to know is, well, a few of the important bits to know is that means you pay coach at the time of booking your deposit as well. So it does, you do need a lot of more money available, especially if you're buying for 6. You receive your ticket not by post, but they'll be, it's gonna be waiting for you at the departure when the festival comes. And then it's done in order for people not to just buy, uh, that offer and then go by car, which it goes against the idea. Uh, but what's happening, and, and that's what I, what I meant when I say the idea was to promote green traveling. I, I know people sometimes try a less popular location, and that means that actually you add an extra bit to your journey. So maybe, maybe end up being less green.

24:21Jessi Mm-hmm.

24:22Miguel I try, I attempt to Dubai for London, you try Reading or Bristol, or maybe if you're crazy and you live in London, you try Glasgow.

24:31Jessi Yeah, traveling up to Scotland just to get the case. Yeah.

24:36Miguel But I always went by coach. I like to go by coach. So I would always try. And I always try London. I see it as an extra chance and I keep it simple. I don't plan all those different workarounds. different strategies, the departings from another place. Uh, I just, I, I see it as an extra chance that works for me because coach traveling is my, my choice really, usually. So I think those are the main bits to understand. You get your ticket on departure, you book, you pay for your coach at the same time as your deposit. So it does require an additional commitment, an extra commitment, uh, Quite early. Yeah. Because it's October. It's a more challenging sale as well because there are more details to go through, more screens you see because you get to select the time of departure, you get to select the time. And when you're faced with that, even though you try to make plans beforehand, I'm only gonna, I'm only gonna get the ticket if it's good times available. But then you get through and there are not good times available, then you need to decide, should I just get it because it's in front of me? And, and should I just try one Thursday and lose out on the Wednesday? So even So you might go to the coach sale with a plan, and that's my suggestion. You need to go with those sort of decisions kind of ready in your mind, I guess, what you're willing to commit, what you're willing to accept. But then I cannot say I've done that myself. When you get to the time, oh, let me click Thursday and see what's happening. Let me click on Thursday and see what's happening there.

26:10Jessi The coach sale is stressful. I've only ever done it to buy for friends. But as Miguel said, it adds that extra layer of stress because not only— it's not just put your registrations in, pay for it, done. It's put your registrations in, now choose your coach departure point. And, and sometimes you'll be clicking on it and then it's available and then it's not, and then another one will be available. And yeah, it's, it's just an extra, extra layer of stress when you're going for the tickets. And as Miguel said, you're like, oh God, shall I just take this because it's better than not getting a ticket? You have to make decisions in the moment and usually for the group. Whoever's, you know, I've had friends go like, oh well, why did you book me a 4 PM Wednesday coach? It's like, well, that was the only one available. So like, sorry, you're just gonna have to trust me. I tried to get the better ones, obviously. But just one thing I really want to absolutely hammer down as well, and Miguel did say this, is that the main point is, is that if you buy a coach ticket, you have to arrive on the coach. There is no way around this. There is no Oh, can I just pay extra and go by car? Oh, my mate's now got a lift, can I go with him? Or can I get a train because my train, my coach time is at a really bad time? No. If you get a coach ticket, you have to go on the coach. That is the only way to get your ticket. You, the, the physical ticket will be given to you by someone on the coach. You are allocated onto a specific coach and your ticket is waiting on the coach. There is no way around this. Every year people are like, oh, but I need to do this. No, you, that's it. So that's why they put that coach sale first, because it's saying to people like, hey, if you're willing to come by coach and give up all, you know, and be green— yeah, as you said, Miguel, that some people might go to travel to Glasgow to come back down. But anyway, uh, in the purest form, are you willing to be green? Are you willing to bring less stuff? Are you willing to, you know, come on our allocated coaches? And then you have your ticket before the main sale even, even happens. So it's your way of going like, how can I get a ticket and guarantee it? But you have to arrive on the coach.

28:10Miguel And also, if you do try and you are lucky, it's an extra chance to get tickets, but don't think you can then go and try on Sunday to see if you can get the general sale because you already got a ticket. I think it's important to understand that it's not an extra chance in the sense that then, oh, I got my coach ticket. Perfect. I'm definitely going. And then I'm going to try to get the regular one on Sunday so then to go by coach. That's not going to happen. So yeah, you need, you need to accept beforehand, uh, and organize and have to do this extra bit of organization with whoever is joining you as a group.

28:43Jessi Should we chat about the price a bit? I know you've mentioned it a couple of times. I know that this is something that I know has been floating around my groups. I've seen it online a bit. We don't want to be too negative, but okay. So the price this year is £408, um, plus postage and packaging. That's the total. So we talked about it's £100 deposit and then the balance, £308. payable in April, plus the P&P. So the last festival, which was 2025, so in 2024 when the sale happened, we— the price was £378.50. So that means the price has gone up over the follow year, uh, festival to festival by £29.50. And as you quite rightly corrected me, the deposit was £75. There's me going banging on about it doubling. £75 for the last year. And now it's gone up to £100. So what do you think about it crossing the £400 mark? How does that feel to you?

29:42Miguel I think every Glastonbury will be the, will be the most expensive Glastonbury on record. I find it very difficult that one year is going to go down in price, even though it will be great. If anything, I think maybe it went up less than I expected. But the main thing is that is the psychological barrier that £400 being crossed. Uh, there's a lot of things we can talk about. I mean, if you just keep it compared to other festivals and shows, large, large tours, arena tours, your Taylor Swifts or your Oasis, your whoever, all the big artists, it's still viable for money.

30:22Jessi Yeah, I was going to say that the Oasis tickets, um, have you seen that they were launched today for the new, for the tour next year? And the price, the cheapest ticket is £179.

30:32Miguel Wow. Yeah, exactly. So that's one thing you can think about, but is it fair to compare? Because maybe that's a widespread issue and the conversation is way above the scope of this podcast, which is why tickets got so expensive for music, for events. One thing I did, I asked myself and then I asked AI how many hours just using UK's minimum wage, you have to work to pay the tickets. And I have to make the table for the last how many years. And that metric has been quite consistent. It's always been around 30, 31 hours, but that doesn't give you the full situation because everything else around us got more expensive, right? So your travel costs, your food costs, life costs. So I think Why 408 and why every year we're going to have this stronger reaction to the price is because people have less disposable income, I guess. I think it's fair to say, even though it's not the discussion we're going to go here. I think we can agree that's maybe a reality. So that's why it's more like the weight of the ticket and the weight of the decision of going or not has become heavier, I guess, for a lot of people.

31:52Jessi That's really interesting though. You said— so, so you're saying that you, you sort of measured it out and the sort of minimum wage number of hours worked has always averaged out the last few years at being around the 30, 31 mark?

32:03Miguel Yep.

32:04Jessi That's really interesting. I wonder if that's something they— I wonder if that's part of how they do it, because that's basically a week's wages. Okay, a short week, like, you know, most people work between 35 and 40 hours, but let's call it a week's wages at minimum wage. With obviously without tax and yada yada yada. But I mean, that's really interesting that it's kind of stayed consistent, at least in that respect. That's, that's made me feel a little bit better about it, if I'm honest. Obviously, as you say, everything else is more expensive. So, you know, you multiply that by every other factor that comes into attending, attending a festival.

32:35Miguel But still. Yeah, I don't know if that says more about Glastonbury tickets or about how much the tickets should be for real. But yeah, but But yeah, me and I pretty, I'm pretty sure you as well, we still see it as very good value because it's like, what, 80 quid per day? And that's when you kind of explain for the people who are new or never been to the festival, but they've been to your Primaveras, your British Summertime, your day festivals, or even festivals abroad. They mentioned a festival where you Wake up at home or your accommodation, and then you get there at 2, 3 in the afternoon and it ends at half past 11. Uh, yeah. And you pay, I don't know how much for, for the food you wanna consume, for the drinks. And I think Glastonbury still has the differential that first, if you split by days without taking much into consideration, it's still cheaper than a London day festival. Uh, and then You can bring everything you like into the festival pretty much, right? So, so you can, uh, the, the way you do Glastonbury, it can vary a lot. So you can save a lot if you plan. Uh, you can take your food and drink. So that's a big difference. And, and plus, some Glastonbury pretty much doesn't stop, right? You go through the gate on Wednesday and it only stops after you exit the gate on Monday. It, it's not like the headliner is done. Let me do a long walk to the tent, uh, before midnight or just after midnight and wake up tomorrow. And the whole morning is a bunch of almost nothing happening, like many other festivals, et cetera, et cetera. And so, yeah, I, in a way, it's still very worth it, but I do understand how psychological barrier is broken at 400, how it's heavier, how it's heavier, even though The metric seems to, oh, it should kind of feel the same for people in terms of work hours, but people have less disposable income. Everything else needed for the festival is still quite expensive. The last thing I was, the last thing I was gonna say, and this is something I have felt in recent years, the classic saying is the lineup don't matter. If I'm paying this, I think like, okay, I, I wanna see a lineup that comes out and I say, oh, this is, this is fantastic. This is perfect. Which it kind of always is, but I feel like the whole lineup, don't matter for me, is kind of changing. And it's probably because I'm getting older as well. So like, oh, I want to see some value here on the first poster as well. Is there any way around it? I guess not. Everything got more expensive for the festival itself. The industry is having a lot of challenges to put events out. A lot of events are getting canceled, venues are closing. Uh, and again, this will be a much wider discussion on this podcast. Really?

35:33Jessi I sort of agree. I think you see £400 on paper and you go, whoa, actually that does— that's something in your brain goes, God, that does feel like a lot. But let's take BST for example, bearing in mind all the points you just made. BST is £120 a ticket, and a lot of the time for some of the bigger ones at BST, £120 doesn't even get you into the front section. So like, they have a golden circle situation Which is a good front third of the festival. I think it's— I think when I went this year, it didn't feel quite as big, but still. So you're paying £120 for one day. As you say, you come at 2 PM, it closes at 10:30 PM on the dot, no sound after that moment, and you go home. You cannot bring anything into that festival. You can't bring a flapjack bar to keep you going. You can't bring— well, I think you can bring a bottle of water, or at least an empty one, but you can't bring any alcohol whatsoever. You can't bring any soft drinks whatsoever. You cannot bring any snacks or food whatsoever. A drink at BST— I bought a can of gin and tonic and it cost me over £10. I can't remember what it was, I think it was something like £11, so, or £10.80 or something. But a can of Gordon's gin and tonic was £10.80, was over £10. And if you think, right, okay, yeah, maybe, you know, you get people outside the gate like chugging a bottle of wine before they go in, but still, that is so expensive for what is essentially 8 hours of music, maybe 10 hours of music or 10 hours of a day. It's a really good point you made about Glastonbury. Lots of festivals say, oh, you can only bring in 12 cans for the weekend or 24 cans for the weekend or no spirits allowed. Glastonbury, I think if you walked in with a trolley that had, I don't know, 400 cans on it and you were one person, they might say it is for— you do need to bring in for personal use. But when they say personal use, it is very loose. You could just say, oh, these are for my friends who are coming in later. Uh, no one's gonna really check you. You know, as me and you have said before in this, we— our hot tip is always to bring spirits. Bring them in plastic bottles, carry them around with you, and then you can get like a fresh cold, uh, soft drink from somewhere and top it up. It's a nice cheaper way of doing it. You save so much money by doing that. You can cook at your campsite, you can bring all the snacks in the world, you're not having to spend £15 on a meal. 3 times a day. Um, I, I still, you know, I'm the same as you. It— I think it's amazing value for what it is. And just some more comparative prices, uh, as an example, Boomtown, Boomtown Fair for next year is pushing £400. I think, I think the early bird was something like £385 before booking fees or before, you know, the transaction fee or something. But I think that it— I think the first couple of tiers have sold out now, so it probably is over £400 at this point. And, uh, Boomtown, that, that doesn't include any— well, I know it's the same at Glastonbury, but the Boomtown have different camping upgrades, um, that have different, you know, things. So that is just your standard ticket, you know, doesn't include that. So I honestly think it's still incredible value. And, and as much as seeing it written down, I remember seeing it and sort of wincing, going, oh God, that does feel a bit spicy, you know. Everything you've said, £80 a day, I hadn't thought of it like that actually. That's a great way to think of it as well. And yeah, your point on the lineup, I, I agree. I don't think there's been a year in years that I've seen all 3 Pyramid headliners. I, I think probably 2013 was made, or 20, so, you know, around that time was probably the last time I did that. But I do, you know, on the poster, I would love to see 1 or 2 where I'm like, ah, that's so exciting, that's so someone I didn't expect, or someone, you know, someone that I would pay a lot of money to see on their own kind of thing.

39:17Miguel So I, I do agree with Uh, and that's always the question, but how much is worth it for you, right? Which I never know how much, how to answer, because I guess in the same way, it, it kind of connects to how, how, how is my life at the moment financially? Uh, how's my work situation? Uh, uh, yeah, I, I guess a lot of people need to say, I would pay £1,000 happily. Does it give you value for £1,000? Maybe it does, but I wouldn't be able to afford. So I guess the question is, is, is, Uh, at what, at what cost I will have to go and sadly say, oh, sadly I cannot do it. And something I'm facing for next year really with the additional cost of a flight. So I'm, I'm buying tickets. I'm going to try for tickets in October, but this time for the first time, not fully knowing if I will be able to go, but that's more down to my personal situation. Um, because there will be a lot of hundred pounds.

40:14Jessi We'll have to crowd— we'll have to crowdfund for you, Miguel. We'll have to get Miguel to Glastonbury crowdfunded. Let's sort of— let's wrap it up a little bit. But before we do, we meant— we just talked about headliners and what would make it worth it for us, etc. What headline rumors have you heard? Like, I, I mentioned it earlier, but until this week, until today, it was, oh my God, it's going to be Oasis, it's going to be Oasis, which, you know, if their tickets are £200 as a starting point, like, that would have made it worth it for me. But, uh, they've released their tour dates and they're doing Manchester, the arena up in Manchester. Um, not arena, you know what I mean, the, the big open space up in Manchester. And they are doing the 25th and the 26th, which is the Friday and the Saturday. So technically the Sunday is free, but I severely doubt they will be coming down. But you never know, it doesn't mean it's that they're an absolute no. But any other rumors you heard? We don't— we don't— we only touched lightly on this, by the way, because I think we're going to do— go into this in more detail in more episodes. But any, any sort of top of your head rumors that you're excited for?

41:20Miguel Well, not excited for, but I guess the strongest one at the moment is Harry Styles. Uh, and he just did, uh, uh, quite a big tour and some of the London dates did so well. I went for quite cheap. And so I'm surprised he already announced another set of shows for next year, but this time with some big names as opening acts and, and different opening acts on each in each city. And I think from what I last saw, there is a big Glastonbury-shaped hole, as Glasto thingy like to put. So the rumors got stronger now. But yeah, Harry Styles, just a year after he just did a big tour, again, doesn't sound very exciting, I guess.

42:07Jessi I don't know. I didn't go to his tour, so I would be like, I'm not a huge Harry Styles fan. In fact, I could probably name you 3 songs. Um, you know, there's people who are like, you're wearing that t-shirt, name 3 songs. I, I could probably name 3 Harry Styles songs, but I would be excited to see him. But I don't know, I'd be— I think he's a pretty strong shoo-in, if I'm honest. Yeah, Oasis I've heard. I was really— I know I say this every year, but I was really hoping for Lady Gaga, but she's just had a baby, so I severely doubt that she'll want to do like a, you know, big— maybe 2028, who knows. I was also really excited about the Madonna rumors. And now, you know, Emily Eavis has said that that's not the case, but I'm hoping she's double bluffing. I don't know. That's all I've heard really. Or Taylor Swift again is the other one I've heard.

42:58Miguel I think Sam Fender. Sam Fender name is in the mix.

43:02Jessi Oh, I'd love Sam Fender. Yeah, that would be good.

43:04Miguel I'm not sure what Sam Fender is doing today because I don't follow. Is it time or is it past or is it just the perfect timing? But then you have Sam Fender and Harry Styles. Isn't that just very similar. I don't know, different music, but yeah.

43:18Jessi Yeah, I guess maybe also they're really trying to push like women, you know, female headliners, aren't they? So, so I think like 2 sort of young white men, maybe they'd be a bit like, maybe that's not true. But you never know, Sam Fender could be Other Stage. I, I'd be up for Olivia Dean even though I don't know her that well. I know that she's a good performer and I, you know, there's quite a few— there's a couple of her songs that I do really like and I could get into her. But yeah, I'm, I am hoping for some more, for some more women, let's say. So that's that, and it's really nice to be back and to be chatting with Miguel and doing another GlastoCast episode. We have a few lined up. I've got a really cool guest that I need to confirm, so I'm not going to say who it is on the, uh, on the podcast just yet, but I'm hoping we can get his time because it'll be really, really good to interview him. So we've talked about, um, how to succeed on ticket day, or let's just say some of the things you can do to maximize your luck, maximize your chances of getting a ticket, but it is still very, very difficult and a lot of us will be unsuccessful. And so we want to do an updated episode, and we're going to be recording this very, very soon, an updated episode on how to get to Glastonbury if you were not successful on ticket day, because there are many other ways of going to Glastonbury even if you didn't get a ticket. On ticket day.

44:37Miguel And stay tuned, subscribe, and follow your socials as well. There will be more episodes coming out soon.

44:42Jessi Uh, may the gods be with you on ticket day, and thanks again for listening, and we're excited to be back.