The Glade and Avalon, from the other side of the stage.

0:00Miguel Hello and welcome to GlastoCast, the unofficial Glastonbury Festival podcast. It's Miguel here, and well, it is really just me here at the moment. I'm recording this just after finishing editing the episode you're about to listen Sadly, we couldn't meet in our studio, so this one was done remotely, which means the audio might not be up to our usual standards. However, for the first time, we have a guest! How amazing is that? So I'm not gonna hold it any longer, and I'm just gonna press play. Well, symbolically press play, I guess.

0:50Jessi Hello! So today we're really lucky to be speaking to the media manager for both the Glade and the Avalon areas. His name is Paul. Hi Paul, nice to meet you.

1:01Paul Hi Jessi, hi guys, how are you?

1:04Rob Hi Paul, yeah, I'm really good. Nice to meet you, mate.

1:06Miguel Hi Paul, welcome to GlastoCast.

1:08Jessi Cool, yeah, really good to meet you. Like, this is really exciting. We're— we didn't really do any proper interviews on, on series 1. We basically got people to record things and send them in, so this is really nice to actually You're our first interview, really exciting.

1:20Paul Yeah, I know, it's cool to be here. Really enjoyed listening to like the first season. I know it's gone down really, really well everywhere and it's, yeah, it's a fab podcast. You guys are doing great.

1:32Rob Oh, thank you so much. We've actually been really thrilled, haven't we? Yeah, everyone's been so kind and the feedback's been amazing, hasn't it?

1:39Jessi Yeah, I didn't expect this at all. I thought a few people would listen and go, yeah, this is pretty cool, but I mean, it's It's run away with itself, hasn't it? Like, I keep looking online every day and being amazed by it. So let's do just a little intro if you want to. I know I've given you a little intro there, but if you want to go a little further, sort of say, you know, who you are, what's your Glastonbury story really like, how you first started coming to the festival, how long have you been going, and, you know, how you've evolved to actually work there yourself. So let's hear that from you.

2:08Paul Yeah, that's cool. So my first ever festival was actually in 1999. I remember going, hiring a transit van with some mates and going down. It just rained an awful lot. It was chaos. It was obviously before the fence came up, and to be honest, my memories are fairly sort of hazy of that. But then after that, I had quite a big gap until I think I was doing sort of lots of dance festivals in between that, like Homelands and Green Fields and things like that. And then I first went back in 2007 and sort of been going back every year since. I've been lucky enough to get tickets, or friends have helped me out getting tickets in between. sort of after that time. So yeah, that's how, um, the sort of my, my real sort of like Glastonbury history has been going. And then in 2017, a friend of mine who previously working, um, doing the Glade social media, um, was leaving. Um, and in a previous job, I ran social media and LinkedIn and bits and pieces for, um, rather a large law firm, one of the top 10 law firms in the country. And I just said, look, I do this kind of thing. Um, I had a sort of telephone chat with one of the guys from Glade HQ and then sort of took it from there. So it's really 2017 was my first year that I started doing it.

3:24Jessi Amazing. I'm not gonna lie, I'm a little bit like jealous. That's kind of what I want to do is you take my blog and my social media and I want to do it at festivals. So I've got to say, I knew I was going to put that out there quite early in this interview. Um, and it's interesting, you, you have a similar sort of Glastonbury story to Rob really, don't you? Like you had a couple of years at the beginning and then a big pause And then you've come back and gone, oh God, I missed this kind of thing.

3:49Rob Yeah, definitely. I mean, my first was 2002 and I did a couple of years and it just kind of cropped up that I didn't get a ticket one year and other things kept happening and before I knew it, 10 years had gone by and I just kind of couldn't figure out what had gone on. So yeah, after going back in 2013, there was, there was no way I was letting anything get in the way.

4:09Jessi Except in 2014 when you went on Block9.

4:11Rob Yeah, I knew you were gonna say that. I knew you were gonna say that. My holiday of a lifetime that, yeah, turned out to just be looking at what was happening at Glastonbury the whole time I was away.

4:21Paul Yeah.

4:21Jessi Cool. So, um, let's hear a little bit more about your kind of role now. I know you've, you've done it in 2017, so was it— when you got on site, was it everything you kind of thought it would be, or was it completely different from what you'd done before in social media? I mean, it's grown this year, isn't it? So you were doing just Glade last year, and now you're doing Glade and Avalon, so you must be doing something right. So tell us a little bit more about your role and kind of how it's evolved over what happened in 2017 and what you're going on to do now?

4:49Paul Sure. So, um, so obviously, um, you know, covering Twitter, Instagram, and Facebook for, for Glade. So that's it. That did, um, well in sort of 2017, and, and as you sort of like hinted at, it's now sort of expanded onto Avalon as well. So essentially now what I've got is sort of like I have a team of, um, a couple of video guys, I've got, uh, 4 photographers, and so It's now my responsibility to make sure that, so actually when the festival is happening, that we've got people sort of allocated to sort of different spots and to like different acts. We've got in Avalon, there's like a main stage guy, but there's also someone else who's going to be also covering the Wood. We're responsible for the Wood as well, as well as Avalon and Glade. That's— the Wood is, I suppose it's like a— I hate this word— brainchild, but it's kind of an idea of one of the guys who runs Glade. that as well. So we've got a photographer that's covering the wood as well as sort of the outdoorsy stuff in Avalon. And then there's people that are doing video for the, like, the Glade area, and a couple of photographers for the Glade area. So there's that that I'm looking after. But in between all of this as well, it's not just when I'm at the festival, because I look after the socials when I'm not there. And so it was like all throughout the the fallow year. So I'm constantly monitoring the feeds and growing the membership and not tweeting and sort of publishing too much because I'm sort of very aware that less is more. Yes. And it's not— you don't have to sort of bombard it with stuff because people get bored, even of stuff from Glastonbury. Really amazingly, you'd think that wasn't the case, but you don't want to—

6:33Jessi They clearly haven't met us.

6:35Paul You don't really want to bombard people. So So I get involved in all the announcements as well, which is quite cool, and get all the sort of poster stuff. Yeah, it really is. As obviously somebody who'd been to like 10 festivals before I started doing this, to be on the other side of it, it's just really trippy. It's really weird.

6:59Rob So is it one of those things where you've gone from being excited to now a point where When you know almost before anybody else does, is that like— do you just want to tell people, or is it hard to keep it a secret?

7:11Paul You don't want to spoil it for people. I'm very aware of a lot of the magic with Glastonbury is keeping it special. Because I was down in Somerset for a pre-production meeting for Glade and Avalon a few months ago, and one of the edicts from the festival is to sort of— when we're on-site early not to publish photos on your socials and just to keep as much secret as possible and special. So when the doors open, when the gates open on, on the Wednesday morning, the people sort of like come in with like wide-eyed wonder and everything's really special for them. So I'm very, very aware that this is basically Christmas for so many people. So I don't—

7:58Rob Good stuff.

7:59Paul So I don't sort of, you know, this year obviously at the, at the Glade we've got some of the biggest names we've ever had. You know, Fatboy Slim is there, Carl Cox is is there as well. You know, Idris Elba, it's insane.

8:13Rob I mean, the lineup is incredible. I don't think I'm gonna be anywhere else on the Saturday, to be honest.

8:17Paul So, you know, so obviously I'm following and retweeting and all the rest of the sort of interactive stuff with people's accounts. But also what we've been doing as well, we're getting artists to do like mini vlogs, like mini video clips about how excited they are to be playing the sort of various areas.

8:35Jessi I've seen some of those, they look really cool.

8:36Paul So I don't think anyone else is doing that, so that's something that I'm I've taken on to do Avalon as well. So whilst we've had Fatboy Slim, Carl Cox doing them for Glade, we've had Reef and Frank Turner and the amazing Beans on Toast as well doing like video clips and things for us. So, you know, we're really sort of trying to push sort of the, the more visual side as well as rather than just, you know, pushing up people's mixes and stuff, we're getting some like unique little bits of content to get people excited.

9:05Jessi Yeah, I've loved seeing those on my feed, like the little, um, clips. And you're right, I haven't seen it from any anywhere else in, in kind of the Glasto landscape. I think nobody else is doing it, and it was quite surprising to see it, and I was like, this is really cool. You know, you want, you want to know that the artist is excited to play the festival. I know it sounds a bit weird, but like, you, you want them to be as excited on stage as kind of you are listening. So to have them go like, yeah, I'm gonna play the Glade and it's gonna be amazing, you should come on down, I can't wait— it's just, it just makes you think, okay, yeah, it's not just me. Like, they're excited as well, and it's going to be really good fun. So.

9:39Paul Yeah, I think so. And I think as, as sort of like seasoned festivalgoers that we are, it's sometimes you can almost— it feels like a little bit commonplace, but it is such a massive deal, people playing Glastonbury. We're obviously well used to it because, you know, because we've been going a lot, but I think it doesn't do you any harm sometimes just to have even sort of, you know, as I say, people like Fatboy Slim, Carl Cox, um, talking about how excited, how stoked they are, even though they've been at this for years and years. It's still really, really special for them.

10:13Rob I think Glastonbury is one of those festivals where the performers are as excited to be there as we are, and I think that definitely comes across. And seeing it in these videos, you're almost where you didn't think you could possibly be more excited. You get more excited by other people's excitement, and it just grows and grows and grows. And I think that's just one of the great things about Glastonbury, and it's It's great to hear that it comes from both sides of the stage, and I just think that's great.

10:38Miguel And if any of them want to share the excitement, not visually, but in a podcast—

10:42Rob Oh, Miguel, you always try to plug it.

10:45Jessi That was one of your best ones. What you're saying is if Fatboy Slim's listening and he fancies coming on the podcast, then we are open and ready. Brilliant.

11:06Rob So Paul, I know you mentioned earlier about having photographers posted, you know, at different parts of the stages. Do they stay at the stage, that particular one? Are they there from the start to the finish, or do they get to kind of wander around?

11:17Paul Yeah, I mean, I think that's a good question. I think there's certainly— there's sort of 2 strands to it really. They've got some of the— a couple of the photographers are going to be sort of mainly sort of stage-focused. So they're obviously— you've got a lot of the artists want to have their publicity pictures and all the rest of it, and those sort of thing pictures are really good for online as well. But I think it's Especially in Avalon, it's good to sort of capture— because Avalon has that feel, doesn't it, of a festival within a festival, especially with all the walking around theatre people and all that kind of stuff as well. So we do have a couple of more candid people just having fun.

12:00Rob That's like half of the magic, is finding things happening. where you wouldn't necessarily think. And I think just kind of outside stages is where kind of people are looking in. You see them realizing, oh, I didn't really even notice that they were here and going and enjoying the music. And I think it's great. I'm glad that you guys capture that because it's good to see.

12:21Paul I think that's one thing that we're going to try— certainly I'm very aware of— for The Wood this year. I don't know if you've seen the pictures of the build of what's going on down at The Wood or up at The Wood, because we've got Shakespeare happening up there haven't we? This roving theatre company, they're going to do sort of 25-minute excerpts. So the photographers will be capturing— there's obviously quite a lot of some good opportunities there in amongst what's being created.

12:51Jessi That'll be something fun to stumble upon, definitely. The wood, I should know this because I should have looked at the map in like granular detail, but is it— can you sort of give me a reference as to where it would be in reference to the glade? Is it like—

13:05Miguel Here comes Jessi with the map.

13:08Jessi I'd like to know where things are, guys.

13:11Rob Don't ask me.

13:13Miguel It's behind John Peel, isn't it?

13:16Paul Yeah, it's under the auspices of us, Avalon and Glade, but it's nowhere near Jessi. It's completely up by John Peel.

13:25Jessi I have been there then. I have been there. It's the one up by John Peel. That's fine. Does that mean you're going to be running around like a headless chicken leg going between the woods? I didn't realize the wood was all the way over there, but now it's rung a bell. I've got it. But if you're going— so Avalon and Glade are sort of similarly in the same area, you can get between them quite easily. But having to nip over to the Wood as well is going to mean— are you going to have a buggy or are you going to be running over there?

13:48Paul I'm going to jump on the monorail like everybody else.

13:51Miguel Yay!

13:54Rob It got mentioned!

13:55Jessi Hey, the first reference to the monorail! Fantastic.

13:58Rob Very secret.

13:59Paul But no, the photographers will be able to capture that, I think. I don't think Because it's not like there's bands on, it's not running loads and loads of things going on there. It's a nice space for people just to stop. Obviously there's a bar there and stuff, and, you know, it would be a decent little sort of chill-out spot. So I don't need to go rushing up there. There's things that we need to capture and not necessarily me. That's fine.

14:28Jessi You can just tell your vloggers what you want and they'll do their thing.

14:30Paul Okay, cool.

14:31Jessi Okay, so we mentioned, uh, well, Paul, you mentioned a few of the standout acts of kind of Avalon and Glade so far already, but before we come to you, I'm actually going to ask both Rob and Miguel if they have any lineup standouts. Is there anybody on there that you've looked at and gone, oh, I'm gonna be there, I'm definitely gonna be there, just specifically from Avalon and Glade? Like, particularly if you've got any smaller bands that people might not know of or might not have heard of that you really, really recommend. Any, any suggestions?

14:58Rob Well, to be honest, I know I briefly mentioned it earlier, but I genuinely wasn't lying. Once I get over to The Glade to watch Carl Cox, I can't really see myself leaving. That is just an incredible run right the way through Saturday night.

15:10Miguel And it's gonna be like 4 hours, isn't it?

15:13Rob It's fantastic. I genuinely can't wait. And it's caused all my clashes that I've— because everybody does that, don't they? You start looking at times and figuring out where your clashes are from what you were planning to do. And all of mine come along because I don't, I don't want to leave The Glade on the Saturday. So it's right the way for— yeah, I mean, don't get me wrong, I may pop in and out earlier and stuff, but just being specifically that Saturday night run is, is just fantastic, and I'm so looking forward to it.

15:42Jessi I mean, are you going to be at Carl Cox for the 4-hour set of his?

15:46Rob Well, probably not.

15:48Jessi And then the Feds, SG Lewis, Seth Troxler, Idris Elba. I mean, that is going to be a long day.

15:52Rob And then in the— I mean, it is going to be a long day. And, you know, um, we've talked about it in one of our other podcasts, I'm sure, if not many, that, that plans never seem to go the way that you, that you want them to, in a good way. And I'm sure at some point I'll wander off and that someone who I'm with will want to go and do something. But absolutely, Idris Elba, the Faithless DJ set, you will not be able to tie enough cars to me to pull me away from that. I am so looking forward to it. Honestly, I really am. So I'll go with the Faithless DJ set following Idris Elba as my big 100% will not be missed. No chance.

16:28Miguel So a few years ago, I actually shot a promotional video for an audio company, and we had a band. I was filming a band in the studio, and they're actually playing at The Glade, which is quite nice.

16:38Jessi Excellent!

16:40Miguel Which is Dr. Meeker. I think they're playing Friday. And I remember this a few years ago when we were doing this video, we had a chat about Glastonbury, and then I said, well, hopefully I'll see you guys there one day. They played before, it's not the first time. Yeah, but yeah, probably we're gonna try to catch them up. I don't know if they remember me.

16:58Rob Everyone remembers you, Miguel. Yeah, that's it, don't they?

17:01Jessi The tweets we've been receiving, everybody remembers you.

17:04Miguel But maybe I'll have a copy of the video on my phone to show them.

17:08Paul It's me, remember?

17:09Miguel I filmed you.

17:10Rob That's if you haven't left your phone in the toilet, hey.

17:12Miguel Yeah, yeah, that's true. But yeah, we had quite a nice afternoon a few years ago. They were playing live in the studio and I was trying to keep my hands steady to film it, but I was also dancing at the same time.

17:23Jessi Hey, that's a good story.

17:26Rob Okay, well, I'm sure we can join you for that. Yeah, so looking forward to that.

17:30Miguel Well, just, I did say in one episode that The Glade is one of these stages where I maybe don't know many of the acts, but I always end up at the stage and have a great time.

17:41Jessi Absolutely.

17:42Rob If there's a little gap, that's kind of the direction we're heading in.

17:45Miguel So basically I'm still going with that. So I'm going to be hearing your recommendations and this time maybe know what I'm doing when I'm there. Excellent.

17:52Rob Excellent. What about you, Jessi? I mean, What's, what's your number one?

17:57Jessi You know what, uh, I've, I've got a couple on The Glade that I want to shout out, but I've got loads on Avalon. Like, when the Avalon, uh, lineup post, like, individual poster came out, I honestly was at work and I like sort of started almost like vibrating out my seat, like, oh my God, all of my favorites are there. So yeah, it's like, okay, so let's start with The Glade. Um, reel them off, literally. So I've got a few shoutouts. Friday, Dub Pistols. Uh, I've seen them so many times and they are fantastic. Fantastic. Like, always really, really good vibes. Like, if you, um, if you like Gentleman's Dub Club, lots of things like that, they're very similar, but they're a bit more high energy and, oh, amazing. I can't wait for them. Uh, and then Sunday, something a little bit different. I love the Cuban Brothers. Now, have you seen them?

18:41Rob No, I think you've mentioned it before.

18:43Jessi Oh, have I?

18:43Rob Actually, I definitely have.

18:45Jessi I'm not surprised. I talk about them a lot. They are— they're like comedy slash music, but I, I can't really begin to describe it. It's, um, It's, it's very— well, you can go with the kids because they're absolutely brilliant at making sure that their very dirty jokes go over their heads. Um, but it's, it's, it's really good fun.

19:05Rob Like, you—

19:06Jessi there's— you can't not smile at the Cuban Brothers. You'll have a great time. And then on Avalon, like, there's so many. Like, Frank Turner is one of my all-time favorites. I'm probably going to be there for my Friday night headliner, which is, I mean, unusual for me, but I'm really looking forward to it. Tank of the Henge, uh, they are One of my all-time favorites. And Miguel will know, they actually— I got them to play at my birthday this year.

19:29Rob You did?

19:30Jessi Yeah. Check me out.

19:31Paul Yeah, it's true.

19:32Miguel It's true.

19:33Jessi Yeah, they're sort of friends of friends and like, I love them. And yeah, they played at my birthday in January, which I was very lucky and it was amazing. So I'm really looking forward to seeing them. Beans on Toast that Paul mentioned, like, he's like always been a favorite of mine. He used to support Frank Turner on tour and now he's sort of done quite well for himself. He's very like folk music but with a very raspy voice and yeah, he's amazing.

19:58Miguel It's on my list as well for this year because he's one of those acts which they're kind of regulars at Glastonbury and I haven't seen him yet.

20:05Rob No, I haven't seen him but I've heard lots of people who have and lots of people talking about it so I kind of feel like I should have.

20:11Jessi You really, honestly, he's got the best stories to tell. He actually wrote a book this year that the name escapes me right this second but It's basically a collection of stories from his life. He tells quite a few about Glastonbury, but the first story he tells about his first Glastonbury is just like, it captures, like this podcast is very much like this story. If you love Glastonbury, I really implore you to get this book and just read his stories. They're so good. Anyway, so a little side note there. Um, and I'll just say one, maybe two more. So Cut Capers are like a kind of brass swing, amazing band. Like you'll love them. You'll have a really great time. That's lunchtime on Saturday. Oh, cool.

20:49Rob Excellent. Jessi, are they like— do you remember we were talking about the Electric Swing Circus?

20:53Jessi They are like Electric Swing Circus. They don't have sort of a DJ, so they don't have like the sort of electronica undercut as such. But they are similar.

21:04Paul They're incredible.

21:04Rob Because obviously you know how much I love those guys. So maybe I'll come and check them out.

21:07Jessi You all love them, honestly. Cut Capers, you all love. And Skinny Lister, again, another previous support act for Frank Turner. But I've learned— I've come to love them over the years as well. They're really shouty punk a little bit, but also there's a female singer whose voice is incredible, uh, and they're really foot-stomping. Really, they remind me of kind of like an Irishy type band, but you'll really be singing along by the end of it. And they're on Sunday as well. So that's my list of everything Avalon and Glade. I realize I've just talked for a while.

21:36Rob Well, yeah, your list has really put us to shame. I feel like I need to add one more. And, you know, I said I was looking for nostalgia and say Bananarama.

21:46Miguel I said I was looking for recommendations.

21:49Paul I got a lot.

21:50Jessi You got many. You got a lot. Yeah, I could actually give you more, but I'm not going to. But I'm just saying, I'll give you guys some more as well, because these 2 stages, I love that we're talking about them together this year. They're 100% my sort of music taste summed up. I'm really excited about it.

22:05Rob Um, a lot of people have been saying that. I mean, I've got a friend of mine who, who said, uh, he texted me when the Avalon, uh, lineup came out. He says, have you seen He says kind of lineup that I would just go to any festival for. Yeah, regardless of it just being one stage.

22:19Jessi So, well, that's it. Paul just said it's a festival within a festival, so that's exactly it. So that's— there you go. So over to you, Paul. Like, you've known about this lineup obviously for a bit longer than we have, and as you've said, like, you've kept in the excitement and had to just sort of share it with yourself. Um, but are there any particular ones that when you first saw it that you went, oh, I'm so glad we've got them? they're going to have great energy, or who are you excited about on these, uh, on these 2 lineups?

22:44Paul Yeah, so, um, last year, um, on the Spike we had, um, this band called Dark Matter who are live drum and bass. Now they're, they're also on at the Spike again, but they've, um, they've been moved up onto the main stage on Friday afternoon. They are absolutely astounding. There's a singer, there's like obviously sort of like drummer, but there's a guy, um, Johnny Jazz, who does like decks as well. And you know, it's— they are brilliant and they're like a tour de force, so they're well worth seeing. Just a Couple of Mums. Surely you guys have heard of Just a Couple of Mums before. They've played the last few years. It's 2 ladies with feather dusters and wraps around their head. They play disco, they play fun disco, they get the crowd singing along to the likes of Sweet Caroline, ABBA, all this sort of stuff. Now I think they're on the Spike a couple of times. I think on the Wednesday, possibly on the Thursday. Don't quote me on these. They are fantastic. They bring the— absolutely bring the fun. And if you wanted something in an afternoon where you can just have the whole of the Spike singing along to Cheese—

23:55Jessi That sounds like my dream.

23:56Rob I am sold. Yeah, I'm sold.

23:57Paul Just a couple of mums are fantastic.

24:00Jessi And the best name ever, I think.

24:02Paul Oh, they're just the best. Also, of course, it goes— I've I can't believe you guys haven't mentioned Cassette Boy versus DJ Rubbish.

24:09Miguel Yes, I actually was gonna mention them.

24:11Jessi I was waiting for Miguel to say that, actually. Like, I was surprised you didn't.

24:15Miguel I had a chat with Jessi before and I did mention them. So yeah, they're great live.

24:19Paul Oh, they're fantastic.

24:19Miguel Tell us about it.

24:20Paul I was— well, I mean, everybody knows Cassette Boy. DJ Rubbish being the world's worst, best MC. I remember the year that Dave Grohl busted his leg. backstage and shout out, saying, right, coming on, DJ Rubbish, no gimmicks. And he came on with plastic plaster cast as if he'd broken his own leg. No gimmicks at all.

24:43Rob Excellent.

24:45Paul And it was a real, like, treat last year, or 2017. Afterwards I was back there and I met them both sweaty after their gig, and that was such a joy because there's— there's just absolute perfection for, like, a Sunday Sunday lunchtime, isn't it? Yeah, they're brilliant, brilliant. They're really, really good.

25:05Miguel And I mean, because they do satire, there's plenty of material going around for this year.

25:11Paul There's an awful lot there. But as far as Avalon's concerned, you've got— again, there's the Barsteward Sons of Valdunican from Barnsley. They do like comedy folk parody songs, and they're playing Sunday lunchtime. They're really fun. There's 3 guys and they all wear tank tops and sing songs about Barnsley town centre.

25:31Rob Excellent.

25:33Paul They're really fun.

25:34Jessi Someone's mentioned them to me, so I'll make sure I get there because I've heard something else about them.

25:37Rob I was reading about them online, yeah. Yeah.

25:39Paul I saw them at Beautiful Days and the lead singer did a stage dive at the end of it. So he's fun. They've also— Jay Bird is also playing Avalon. Her new album sounds really, really good. Her debut album, I think it is. Laura Spraggon as well, we've got playing on Avalon. I'm looking forward to seeing her. And you've already said about Bananarama, so how could you not?

26:04Rob Yes, I had to drop it in there. I mean, I must— '80s nostalgia is a huge part of my music collection and I absolutely love it. So, I mean, I've seen them before and it's fab. It's just a lot of fun. So I was really excited. I haven't actually looked whether or not I don't know what else is going on, but they were a definite— as soon as I saw their name, I was like, right, logging that. I'd love to go and see them again.

26:25Paul Yeah, I think you're right though. I think Avalon has got a really broad range of stuff this year. And you're right, I mean, it's like Cat Empire, Bibio Sound Machine are great as well. I think they're subbing Cat Empire on Saturday night.

26:41Jessi Oh, Cat Empire, I actually forgot about them. Oh my God. Yeah, you're gonna find me at Avalon, guys, all weekend.

26:46Rob There's so many, isn't it? I didn't realize our lists were going to be so big when I went first and named a couple, but I mean, just talking about it and listening to you guys and the names that are coming out, it's fantastic. I don't know whether that's the first fantastic of the day, but I'm sure there'll be a few more.

27:04Jessi Your favorite word?

27:06Rob I know.

27:07Jessi All right, I think we've pretty much— my list there was a bit extensive. Sorry, guys.

27:12Miguel Mine was like 2.

27:12Jessi I just kept seeing things. I was like, uh.

27:14Rob Mine was like 2. I was like, okay, well, You were like, which is your, which is your one can't miss? And I was like, okay, I'll do this one.

27:21Jessi I think I just wanted to talk about all of my favourites. I didn't really care about the others.

27:26Paul I suppose it's testament to how much is going on though, isn't it? I mean, it's a, it's a pretty decent area, to be fair.

27:32Jessi So Paul, you mentioned just there that, you know, uh, Cassetteboy came off stage and you met him and it was really nice to sort of chat to him. That, that sort of brings me on to, you know, is there anybody you met in 2017 with your new kind of behind-the-curtain role as such. Was there anybody that you kind of bumped into by accident or turned around and, and sort of had to say hello to and were like genuinely starstruck? Was there anybody that sort of threw you off-kilter a bit, or were you cool, calm, and collected for the entire time?

27:58Paul Yes, there's, um, I mean, obviously there's a lot of the artists like milling about, and whenever sort of seeing people having to inside going squee and outside, outside just sort of going, all right, okay, so I Like, for instance, the porter cabin that we have that we use as an office in Glade HQ, like, by crew camping there, sort of busy tapping away on the laptop, turn around, oh, hi Goldie, nice to see you, shake hands, and he's like, yeah, good to see you, man, and just then getting on with, you know, getting on with the day. And then there was the Saturday afternoon, lunchtime last time around, looking outside and there's Busted hanging around waiting to go over to Avalon, and then managed to, along with one of my photographers managed to get from the manager of sort of backstage at Avalon pit passes for Busted. Completely— I'm clearly not a photographer, my photographer wasn't, you know, is not an Avalon photographer, but we sort of, we just sort of like mooched down there and then went down in the pit and looked across to see an absolute sea of people At the front. It was unbelievable, just went on and on and on.

29:13Jessi Brilliant.

29:14Rob Well, actually they did, didn't they? Because they went out of the— out the side of the tent, I think. I vaguely remember a picture and it was an aerial picture because obviously Busted were well known, but everybody wanted to go and see them and just more people than could fit. And it's a great picture from above and God, there must be at least 10 to 20 people deep outside the tent who stayed to enjoy that show. So it must have been absolutely brilliant.

29:37Jessi Which for Avalon is quite a big deal. It's one of those things where, you know, like Everybody knows that The Killers' secret set in 2017 was, you know, you couldn't get anywhere near the tent. But for Busted to pull that same— yeah, of course they would, they're a big band— but to have them on Avalon was really cool. Me and my friends managed to get inside the tent and we were very like pleased with ourselves for doing so. And yeah, 15-year-old me had a really, really good time, so it was really fun. But yeah, seeing it from the front, Paul, must have been awesome. I'm very jealous.

30:04Paul Yeah, that was, that was absolutely cracking. So just sort of like went in, saw that, and thought, right, okay, we're only allowed— I think the band has said, right, you can only the first 3 songs of your photography anyway, and then they just want to get on with their show. But then there was also— we had, um, the Love Bullet stage as well last year, and, um, I'd heard on the grapevine that Wee'd had with Eats Everything was, um, headlining on the Friday. I thought it was a Thursday. Thursday or the Friday, I can't remember now. It's been 2 years, guys.

30:33Rob Um, you're asking— you're telling that to me, I can't remember anything.

30:36Paul So, um, which I've I heard the rumor that Fatboy Slim was going to be doing a back-to-back with Eats Everything, so I thought, do you know what I'll do? I'll just— because I can pretty much go anywhere around the Glade area, I thought I'll just chance my arm. So I went up across the back of the— behind the DJs where they were playing. And when you have all those people just standing around schmoozing, doing nothing, thinking, what the hell are those people just doing there? Why aren't they dancing and stuff? One of those was me. And so what I thought I'd do, right, I'll just quickly, quickly take a bit of video, which I did. And then I thought, right, okay, I need to just get off of here now. So I went downstairs, went out, and then the next day, because I've got a fairly decent bit of video, managed to sort of like stick it out on our socials. And Fatboy Slim retweeted it as well, so that was really cool. That was great. That was a bit of an oh blimey moment. Because that's not supposed to happen to people like me. So that was really cool.

31:38Rob That's awesome, and I can imagine that's the moment you'll remember and enjoy whenever you tell it. I mean, I'm sure you're probably grinning ear to ear just kind of reliving it for us.

31:47Paul That is what I'd say. Yeah, most definitely. I mean, that is part of— it's like I said earlier on, this still feels really weird that I'm even doing this, and to be on the other side of the festival that I've sort of loved for years and years. It never gets boring, it never gets normal.

32:08Rob No, and I can imagine you'd never take something like that for granted either. It feels really special every time you get to do it.

32:13Miguel How many showers do you take at Glastonbury these days?

32:16Rob Great question.

32:18Jessi Wow.

32:20Rob Random question.

32:22Jessi I like that we haven't heard from Miguel in about like 5 minutes and then he comes in.

32:28Miguel It is a big, big different way of attending the festival.

32:31Paul Obviously this links so perfectly.

32:34Rob How many showers did you take?

32:35Paul Wow, this is the grit of this that I'd always heard the GlastoCast did.

32:39Jessi That's it. Solid journalism here.

32:44Paul There is a shower backstage and you have to go and get a key for it. I used it once, I think.

32:52Jessi Oh, well, there you go. The man of the people.

32:55Miguel Still one of us. One of us. You know what? Because every time I'm convincing someone to come to Glastonbury with me, it always ends in this question, what, you don't take showers?

33:06Rob Yeah, that's why I went there. That seems to be the big concern for people that haven't been to festivals before, isn't it? And if they haven't been to a festival, that's usually the reason why. And then once they've been for the first time, they get it, they get it, and they just would go forevermore. It's just kind of getting over that first hurdle, which, you know, was a great link, Miguel. Brilliant.

33:32Jessi Yeah, okay.

33:34Paul To be honest with you, I mean, like I said, the shower is there, but who has time for showers? I don't want to waste time.

33:42Rob You might miss something.

33:43Paul Well, exactly. There's too much to do.

33:46Miguel When I volunteered in 2014 and then I had access to hot showers, I used it only once as well.

33:52Rob There you go.

33:53Miguel And I think I forced myself to do it just so I would have this—

33:59Rob Just so that you can say, I did it, I had a decent shower.

34:05Miguel Anyway, moving on.

34:07Rob Okay, you're finished now, Miguel, you're done.

34:13Jessi No, I don't think we should move on, actually. What I'm going to say is, Miguel, you've talked about your time at The Glade when you worked there in 2014. Do you have any funny stories? Let's, you know, shine the spotlight on you, Mr. Shower Man. Do you have any funny stories from your volunteering? Like, did you serve anyone, like, really exciting at the bar, or did you have any sort of, like, after-parties in, I don't know, the Treetop Bar at The Glade or anything like that? Can you tell me anything? What have you got?

34:38Miguel Yeah, so I worked at The Glade Bar in 2014, and I was really lucky with my shifts, which I My first shift was Thursday afternoon, and then the second one was Friday, and then I did one evening, which was the Saturday. And what was quite interesting, a lot of people would come to the bar when— because I did this sort of afternoon shifts, and they would be quite happy. A lot of people say to us, this is a great bar, there's no queue. And I think, I think they had a couple of different beers at the Glade Bar at that time, and also they had frozen, frozen margaritas.

35:08Rob Nice. Oh, frozen margaritas, that's my favorite.

35:12Miguel Yeah, so there was a particular lady who was very fond of the margaritas, so she was coming quite often.

35:19Jessi Was it me?

35:20Miguel No, no, no, it wasn't you.

35:22Rob I'm not gonna lie, it could have been me.

35:24Miguel And every time she would stay around and have a really nice chat and say, this bar is the best. So that was fun. And I remember, so this was 2014, and I mentioned before, I really wanted to see Arcade Fire headlining, and I was I was off from my bar duties on Friday night. But I do remember in between, in between bands shouting out of my lungs, Saturday night, come to the Glade Bar!

35:54Rob Oh wow, you were promoting!

35:57Miguel I will, I will be there pouring pints, come say hello!

36:00Paul Wow.

36:00Rob No wonder.

36:02Jessi Paul's like very conservative at this point.

36:07Miguel And there was a couple actually that showed up and they were sort of standing at the counter like, oh God, they're looking at me like they know me.

36:15Jessi Oh no, they recognized you from the festival.

36:19Miguel And then I went to them and they said, yeah, do you remember? Oh, you were there, right? I was inviting people to come.

36:26Rob Happy you're here.

36:28Jessi Oh wow.

36:29Rob It could be one of many reasons people, like we said before, Miguel, everybody remembers Yeah, no, no, I'm a different Miguel when I'm—

36:37Miguel no, I'm the same, just really happy all the time, which is why I go really. But yeah, this is it. And I did— so I did the evening shift on Saturday and it was just a blast really. I mean, I didn't feel like I missed the festival. So I was at the bar.

36:53Rob It's just another part.

36:54Miguel Yeah, exactly. And I said it before, I really enjoy volunteering and it's this feeling of being part of the festival. It's not work.

37:03Jessi I imagine working bar is probably like one of the funner jobs, and of all the bars, like, Glade Bar is a pretty good bar to get. Yeah, yeah.

37:12Miguel So yeah, this is sort of the summary, and I repeat this every episode, 2014 is still my favorite Glastonbury.

37:20Jessi I think everyone's well aware of that.

37:24Miguel So that's that. No, but I don't think I went to no staff bars or any I didn't find my way into any secret spots or anything.

37:34Rob No, too busy wandering around.

37:35Jessi Yeah, too busy wandering. Yeah, exactly. Rob, what about you? Do you have any sort of Glade memories from the last couple of years? Are there any like particular standout performances that you're like, this was amazing, I had a great time?

37:46Rob Well, much like many of my stories, they start with, well, I'm not actually sure I can hugely remember, but I have these— I have so many memories of wandering around there And like I said, it being my go-to, I quite often will have spent time like Miguel not really knowing who it is I'm watching. But I'll take a little pause here because you might even have to correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm pretty sure I have a really fond memory of this. It might not be true, but there was a fantastic act I try and see as often as possible since this time that I saw at Glastonbury. Who was it? and it's a lady called Touretteshero. Oh, I see her! I'm sure the first time I saw her was in Glade and I was just in pieces from laughing. Not at, because it's not the whole Tourette's thing, but the whole idea is that you get involved and she's very funny.

38:43Jessi She says, you're laughing with me, doesn't she? She said that at the very beginning. Yeah, exactly.

38:48Rob And she has a very, very funny Twitter feed as well which I follow and I couldn't recommend higher to go and see her, and it was at The Glade that was the first time. Now, I know I've checked, she's definitely playing this year, but at a different part of the festival. But it was at The Glade, I'm sure of it, that I saw her.

39:06Jessi Yeah, it was.

39:06Rob And I just had such a fantastic time. And I remember it being on a Sunday because I was feeling a bit down at the time, and I'd gone for a bit of a wander to get out of the tent, you know, to cheer myself up a bit.

39:16Paul Oh, Rob!

39:17Rob Do you know what? It was just one of those You know when you buy Sunday, you're a bit tired?

39:21Paul Yeah, yeah.

39:22Rob And I just needed to get out of myself, and so I did. And I went and I just, I loved it, and she was fantastic. And I wish I could remember the name of her sidekick, the guy. He's equally—

39:31Paul It's her husband, I think.

39:32Rob Is it? Oh, they both— I say they both have separate Twitter pages. And now it's one of those acts that I just don't— I don't know how planned it is, I don't know how random it is, but whichever it is, it just just worked so well, and, and I thoroughly, thoroughly enjoyed it. So that is— that's really a really good memory for me from The Glade.

39:51Paul She's fab because she was, um, because her tick— one of her ticks is biscuits. She has biscuits all the time.

39:57Rob That's it, biscuits.

39:58Paul She's throwing custard creams out to everybody. I was there as well because it was on— she was on before, um, uh, Cassette Boy, um, one year. And so I saw her. She was amazing.

40:11Rob Captain Hot Knives! That's it, I just remembered Captain Hot Knives. That's it, there you go. Tourette's Hero and Captain Hot Knives. And it's something that if I'd have seen it in, in the book, obviously the guidebook that we carry around, or looking, it just, it wouldn't have stood out to me because I would never in a million years have heard of it. But now it's one thing that I actively look for, and I really hope to see them. And I know, I know, I know they'll be there this year, so I will be there.

40:36Paul Yeah, they definitely are.

40:37Rob A Glade moment for me, and it really, really, really perked up my day.

40:41Miguel Ah, Glade moment, Rob, I like that. Or a great moment. Did you have many great moments at the Glade, Jessi?

40:49Jessi Um, yeah, no, I definitely have had many great moments at the Glade. God, you've got me—

40:57Miguel I think we just have the first Glastonbury tongue twister.

41:04Jessi Um, I, I think my favorite was— I, uh, I'm a huge fan of a DJ called A-Skills. Uh, he does a lot of mashups, and he played the Glade like one afternoon, I think a Sunday. I think it was a year that Arcadia was next to the Glade. Uh, the Spider was next to the Glade. What was that, 2013, 2014, something like that? Anyway, yeah, and it was— yeah, it was just amazing. Me and my friend Neil were right at the front. Absolutely. I've— I don't think I've danced danced as hard since, really. We were really going for it. It was amazing. And another one that was really, really good in 2017 was Gentlemen's Dub Club, which I did mention just a couple of minutes ago when I was referencing Dub Pistols. But they're amazing. And what made that really special is that, you know, sometimes at festivals, you— everything comes together and you have 10 friends together and you're all watching a band that you all know the words to and you're jumping around and hugging each other. It was, it was just one of those. It was really—

41:56Rob Those are great moments, aren't they?

41:58Jessi Yeah, it's just, those are the ones that you remember, you know, when you're all together and kind of arms around each other and going for it. So yeah, I've had many, many more. Sometimes they don't even have to be with people you know.

42:07Miguel Could be just friends you just made.

42:09Rob Yeah. Exactly.

42:10Paul Yeah.

42:10Jessi True, it could be friends you just made next to you. But yeah, so I mean, I've had many, many Glade moments, but those are probably the two that kind of stand out for me. But it's— there's something special about that stage. Like, you kind of look at it from the outside, you think, oh, it's just, you know, I say just, but it's, it's a stage between the trees. It doesn't look that big, doesn't look that exciting, but there's something about kind of when you get in there, magic happens. It's like this circle and it's—

42:35Rob oh, it draws you in.

42:37Jessi Yeah, it draws you in. Maybe, Paul, you can tell us a little bit more, like what, what do you think makes kind of The Glade special?

42:42Paul Yeah, I think what, what, um, what I really love about The Glade is that it's smack bang in the middle of the festival and, you know, obviously, you know, The Park, um, John Peel, um, and Pyramid and Other and Other Stages, so you get quite a lot of focus and exposure. But then you see people wandering in, especially from Other, you see people just wandering in here and all of a sudden they're bang in the middle of— there's smoke, there's lights, and they're like— they always come in with a look of wonder, like what on earth is going on here? You've got the quadrophonic Function One sound system that's in there, is really special. Tony Andrews, the pioneer of Funktion-One, designed it. You know, he did the sound for the first Glastonbury festivals, and he's hugely respected. One of the video vlogs that we had a couple of weeks ago was him and Fatboy Slim. You know, he is revered, and the sound system that we've got in there is second to none. You know, and then you've also obviously got the Spike in the Trees. There's the Glade Lounge as well. The spaceport, we've got Left Field on the spaceport doing a DJ set this year as well. There's so much in these little, little sort of dark spaces where there's always something happening. And so, you know, as well as it's a place to escape from the rain. I remember running in, I think it was 2013, 2013 I think, or 2010 I think, it tipped it down, come running in and there's the Dub Pistols and they were tearing the roof off it. Yes. And it was, it's insane. And it's It's got such an outside but inside vibe to it. It's really difficult to explain, but it really goes off. It's a fantastic space and it is magical.

44:24Jessi I think that's what I was trying to get at. It's very sort of from the outside, because you can see straight through to, you know, the other side of it as such, and then it's almost, you know, the white circular roof, and then you see the smoke and the lights and you kind of think, oh, I don't really know what's going on there, but you get in and that sound system sort of circular sound system. As soon as you're in there, you're like, whoa!

44:45Rob Exactly.

44:45Jessi It really sort of like hits you when you walk within that circle. It's amazing. So yeah, thank you very much.

44:51Rob You really feel like you're walking into that bubble, don't you?

44:53Jessi Yeah, it's great. I'd forgotten about Spaceport as well. I mean, I've had— I definitely had a few sweaty dance-offs in there. Like, it's great. Like, you go— it's this little— again, this little bubble that you walk into, like, and there's some really like I'd call them filthy DJs, let's say. They're playing there, you go in there like, whoa, this is, this is some really big bass in there. But yeah, good fun. Um, and let's not neglect Avalon then. So if we talk about what's special about Glade, um, you did mention that Avalon's almost a festival within a festival, and, and we agree as well. But what do you reckon is kind of the special about Avalon? What makes it different from other places in the festival?

45:29Paul Well, there's the Avalon Inn for a start. I mean, everybody loves the Avalon Inn, and that's, that's probably my favorite, um, bar or pub because it's such a an amazingly sort of like big wooden structure, isn't it?

45:40Jessi And it's got big stairs, hasn't it? Yeah, as far as I remember. Yeah, you can go out onto the terrace in the pub.

45:46Paul You're like, okay, it is very strange. And the Avalon Cafe obviously goes on late into the night as well. There's going to be a change this year too. I think there's a change in the after-hours flow into the southeast corner, so there's gonna be a lot of sort of traffic and there's a lot more— a lot of, um, be a lot more people in there for a start off.

46:02Jessi But yeah, that's hot news, everyone.

46:04Rob Hot news.

46:07Paul But yeah, I mean, the Avalon Cafe goes on until like wee hours as well. So there's— it does give you a sort of a space if you don't want to go flying into the Naughty Corner, then you can spend a bit of time, you know, relaxing and whatever you wanted to do around the cafe as well. So yeah, it does have that festival within a festival vibe, especially in the daytime when you've got all the theater and, you know, the walking performers, and there's always something quite sort of like fun and interactive going on there.

46:34Rob I know, I can't wait to get back. I love that area.

46:36Jessi It is really nice when you get— obviously it borders the Theatre and Circus field and they come on in for a walkabout. It's always really nice. You're sort of sitting there outside Avalon Cafe kind of like, oh, I'll just sit and have a bit of a pint and sit in the sun for a while. And then, you know, in walks a giant kind of caterpillar type thing coming in from the Theatre and Circus. You're like, cool, this is a good place to be. So I've been going to Glastonbury for— well, I've done 9 Glastonburys so far, and everybody always says to me that I'm very lucky to get tickets every time, which I know I 100% am, but part of me thinks that I want to work it. I've worked a lot of other festivals, um, kind of doing stewarding and bar work and and various sort of forms of volunteering. And I do think maybe I'm missing something not being able to arrive on site early, especially hearing Miguel's stories. So Paul, would you say, having been, you know, a long-standing ticket holder and now, you know, the last festival was the last— was the first time you've worked it, do you think it's more fun now that you're a part of it?

47:47Paul Um, I think obviously we've all been, um, going for, for such a long time, and I think You have— we all have like a deep love for the festival, a love for its sort of like ethos and what it stands for, and appreciate its history and, you know, the friends that we've made there. And I think to be then involved in working for it and producing for people what you love, it's sort of like, I don't know, it adds a sort of another layer of appreciation. It's certainly like a sort of like intimated, it certainly is surreal being on the other side of it. But it's really special still, and it's more, almost more magical. It's still, I still sort of, you know, pinch myself to think that I'm actually involved on the other side of something that I've loved for so many years. So I don't, I don't know really. I think it, there is, it's just really special. It's hard to come up with another word that isn't that, really. But that's what it is.

48:46Rob It just fits so well, doesn't it? I mean, plus there's the fact, I guess, Paul, that you also get Yeah, for us, Glastonbury is that week. We've kind of extended that through starting our social media pages ourselves and now since starting GlastoCast as well. But Glastonbury now must take up even more of the year for you with planning and all the other different parts of it as well. So, I mean, how much more time do you think you spend there?

49:12Paul Every day.

49:13Rob How much more involved are you? Does it take up part of your week every day? But, you know, It's every day.

49:20Paul I mean, I run a dog walking business, and so I spend a lot of time out in fields with dogs. And one of the beauties, obviously, of modern life is you get an iPhone, and I can monitor, I can do work, I can upload, I can follow, I can retweet, and I can basically be more active and keep an eye on emails coming in and all the rest of it. So it's certainly Since the start of this year, really. It's, oh, since I think probably about November last year. It's all ongoing and it's a buildup, you know.

49:55Rob Fairly nonstop, I suppose. And that's coming from a fallow year, so with that not being the case and actually, in fact, next year being the 50 years, it could go, you know, even more that way.

50:06Paul That's true. That's true. But isn't it wonderful though?

50:10Rob It is, isn't it? And we all love it and we wouldn't have it any other way. And you mentioned there about having your business walking dogs and that's great because you can still kind of be out and about doing things just like you would at the festival. You've got your access to the phone. I think sometimes Jessi and Miguel and myself, almost our jobs get in the way sometimes of our love for Glastonbury. And, you know, do you find sometimes that actually it's, you know, you wish you had more time to get involved, even more so than you do now?

50:37Paul I think I've got a really good balance with it, to be quite honest. I think I'm able to do the job to the best of my ability And also to run my business to the best of my ability. So it works so well for me. I'm really, I'm very, very lucky.

50:53Rob Great position to be in, isn't it? That's, that's great to hear, mate.

50:56Jessi But yeah, it does sound like the dream, if I'm honest. The 2 things I love in my life are I love dogs and I love Glastonbury. So Paul, if I could just have your life, that would be nice. So let's start to wrap this up just a little bit. We're going to talk about Glastonbury kind of as a whole rather than just on Glade and Avalon. I just want to ask you, do you have like a favorite standout Glastonbury moment, or are there any like couple of stories that you really want to tell? Like, we really find that we love hearing other people's favorite bits and hearing their passion come across, and from the feedback we've got from season 1, that's what our listeners love to hear as well. So we want to hear yours. What's your favorite Glastonbury moment or moments?

51:37Paul Well, um, I think as far as sort of music is concerned, I think Pulp's secret set in, in the park in 2011— I was at the front with that— I've always had a lifelong long duration of Pulp, so that was really special. And then I also really like Belle and Sebastian as well, and I think it was 2015 they were playing Other, and I was on the barrier after— it might have been Lionel Richie that year, if memory serves. And anyway, I was on the barrier for that, and then Stuart Murdoch says, oh, who wants to dance on the Glastonbury stage? And he was going down into the crowd and picking people out, and I just thought Do you know what? I'm just gonna go over. So I jumped the barrier and then ran across with all the other people who'd been picked and then ran around the back of the Other Stage and all of a sudden I'm on the Other Stage with about 15 people.

52:34Rob That really deserves a wow.

52:35Jessi That is amazing.

52:38Paul Dancing with them to the band, to Boy with the Arab Strap, jumping around like a loony. And I When I got home, I found out that I'd been told off by Stuart Murdoch. I was taking a picture of him from back and he was like, put your phone down, live in the moment, come on!

52:58Rob I was just like cheesy grin taking a picture of him.

53:04Paul So we were jumping around there and dancing there and then we stayed on for another song, which was then the end of their set. And as I was going off, I was like, oh, I think I might just have the drummer's setlist.

53:13Miguel Oh, that's great.

53:14Paul So I took the drummer's setlist as I was on my way out, and then all of a sudden ushered out, and then all of a sudden back in front with everybody else. So that was, that was fun. Great story.

53:25Rob What a great story.

53:26Jessi Oh, that's great.

53:27Miguel My story was about serving frozen margaritas.

53:30Paul The other one I was going to mention was, um, was I was in the Underground Piano Bar one year, and I was sort of down the front watching. I think it was bluegrass or something. And it took ages to get in there, but I was there with my friend Guy. And there was a tap on my shoulder, it's like, can I get through? No. Where am I gonna go to? He says, well, I've got to be on stage. And I turned around and it was Michael Eavis. Sorry, Michael. Yeah, by all means, of course, get on stage.

54:04Rob I love how at first you were like, no, no.

54:10Miguel Get on the queue, mate!

54:11Rob Who do you think you are?

54:15Jessi Michael Eavis or something?

54:16Paul Oh yeah, he got on stage with— he had a couple of pieces of paper in his hands and then he decided to, uh, he's singing a song to everybody. Oh, which was, which was fantastic. Lovely. So yeah, that was, that was pretty good too.

54:29Jessi Brilliant. I love both of those.

54:31Paul Thanks for that.

54:39Jessi Well, this has been an absolutely awesome chat. It's been amazing to kind of speak to you, Paul, and just hear about, about your favourite, you know, experiences, uh, what your job entails, me being very jealous the entire time. Um, and yeah, it's just been, it's been really cool.

54:52Rob Uh, it's been a really fun episode. It's been really good fun having you here. It's good. I mean, it's given us more to talk about, which we, we don't really need any excuses, but it's been great to have you listening. And, uh, yeah, you've had some Great stories as well, and hopefully you've enjoyed it as much as we have.

55:07Miguel Yeah, thanks so much, Paul. This is what the podcast has been all about. It's just connecting with other, other people who love Glastonbury as much as us and just share with the community.

55:15Paul Thank you, guys. It's, it's been an absolute pleasure to spend a little bit of time with you talking, as we all could, for hours on end about our favorite subject. And on behalf of everybody else who listens, thanks so much for doing it. It's, it's been a complete joy listening to the first season and it's been great talking to you.

55:31Rob Oh, thank you very much. That means a lot. That means a lot. It's great to know. I mean, we love doing it, so it's, it's great to know people love listening. And, uh, thank you for being a part of it with us and giving us some, some great, great stories and information.

55:45Jessi Yeah, it's been our first interview and the first time we've had a 4th person kind of have to deal with our crazy dynamic.

55:51Rob The madness.

55:53Jessi Yeah, but yeah, deal with the madness, exactly. So I'm glad you had fun, and yeah, thanks so much for speaking to us. Um, we'll see you at the festival.

56:00Paul Cool, see you guys.