Back from the farm, and straight into ticket day.

0:00Jessi Hello and welcome to GlastoCast, the unofficial Glastonbury Festival podcast. I'm Jessi, if you still remember who I am. I know it's been a really long time, sorry about that, guys. And I'm joined by— who's this over here?

0:20Miguel Who's this guy? Hi, it's Miguel.

0:22Rob I kind of remember you.

0:23Miguel Yeah, remember me? Rob, right?

0:25Rob That's right, yeah. Good to be here.

0:32Jessi It's been a while, guys, hasn't it?

0:35Rob It has, yeah. I dread to think how long.

0:37Jessi Yeah, it's been a few months, but we are back in the studio and we're really excited to be here and very, very sorry that it's been a bit more delayed. We really wanted to get some out in the summer, but we've all had far too much fun in various other festivals. Miguel's been working some awesome festivals, Rob's been out in Ibiza and various festivals.

0:55Rob Having a lot of fun, yeah.

0:56Jessi I've been clearly at a festival every weekend, so yeah.

0:59Rob We're just, we're just lifing, aren't we? We're having very busy lives, you know, making the most of the summer because it's been a good one.

1:05Jessi So we're back with this. Ticket day is coming up, which is super scary, super exciting.

1:10Rob Yeah, anxiety's starting to set in, isn't it?

1:12Miguel You never get used to it, no.

1:14Jessi No, you never get used to it. But it's weird, obviously, having had the furlough year last year. Now, as you said a minute ago, Miguel, uh, it's, it's come around so quickly.

1:22Miguel Yeah, you've just been to Glastonbury and then the ticket sales.

1:25Rob Yeah, it's only a couple of weeks away, isn't it, the ticket sale? But then I was just thinking, God, it feels like so long since Glastonbury happened, but yet here we are already approaching October.

1:35Jessi Yeah, wow, crazy. So it's been a couple of months since Glastonbury 2019. We all had a fabulous time and we all actually met up at the festival like on purpose this time. It was really good. It was good to actually see you guys on the first day even. Yeah, on the first day, we made sure we did it on the first day. Yeah, it was really good to see you guys in the field. So we have got a lot to talk about. We've— this is the first podcast we're doing having actually been to Glastonbury recently, you see what I mean? Since we've started this podcast, we've been to the festival and come back, so we've got a lot to talk about. Main thing I want to start with is what did we all get up to? I know that we obviously saw each other when we were there, but I only saw you on the first couple of days, so I need to find out what else you did over the weekend. But let's start with arrivals. So I know that was one of our first podcasts that we did. So how did it all go? Did it all go as smoothly as we predicted? Let's go to you, Rob. How was yours?

2:24Rob Yeah, I mean, for me, it's, it's become such a routine now. It's almost, uh, um, Goes like clockwork, and, and this, this without exception. The journey there was incredibly pleasant. We didn't go to the Glastonbury tour this year, we just kind of skipped that part having, having done it previously. But we each met at the same place where we always meet, had a little catch-up having not seen each other for a while. It's always a good, good place to, you know, use the final facilities that, you know, resemble those that we use at home, and had a little catch-up. And to be honest, it wasn't even that late, we were already in the car park. I got a great spot this year. It was a different place than normal, which threw me a little bit. So I was like, whoa, guys, I've been here before plenty of times. What are you doing? But as it turned out, it was really good because it was a stone's throw from where the queue was because it was laid out ever so slightly differently.

3:11Jessi Which gate were you at?

3:12Rob D. Gate D. Yes. I mean, everything coming in was the same. It's just that it was ever so slightly different. No one probably would have noticed normally, but it's just because they sent me to a different place, which threw me a little bit. But like anything, you know, it was changed. I was a bit like, but it turned out to be really good. And yeah. it was next to no distance. We were already at the bottom of the hill walking up, um, to where the gate, um, the queue prior to the gate was.

3:35Jessi What time did you get there?

3:36Rob So we probably got there half 8-ish. Yeah, nearer to 9. Um, parked up, waited for someone who'd kind of got slightly separated, but they, you know, they were only 15-20 minutes. They were in— they ended up in the same car park as well. Met up, got our stuff sorted on trolleys, had a little bit of a chat again, a little drink at the car, um, and then thought, right, well, let's go find the gate. Before we knew it, we were already there. Fantastic. So yeah, straight through. There were guys, um, bag checking, which was good to see. Um, as frustrating as it might seem, it was, it was good to see. And, and they did, you know, they did a good job. Really pleasant as well. They were really good fun about it, which, which actually went down really well because we had a little bit of a chat with them. Um, so hopefully, you know, everyone was the same.

4:20Jessi You sent me a picture. You were right at the front.

4:23Rob Right, yeah, right at the front this time. Well, actually, in truth, we weren't right at the front because of the way they set the queue up in like a zigzag. We decided not to go right to the front, but tactfully stay near the portaloos because this is the one place they do actually have the portaloos is in the queue.

4:40Jessi Oh, I see.

4:41Rob So we decided actually, bearing in mind we're going to be here for, you know, a number of hours and we've got some drinks here, let's position ourselves near the portaloos. So people are walking past us and we're like, yeah, crack on, crack on.

4:55Miguel Yeah.

4:55Rob And we set up.

4:56Miguel What a nice chap they were thinking.

4:57Jessi Yeah, yeah, yeah. They're like, this guy doesn't care, does he know that's not where it stops?

5:01Rob But so people eventually, they, you know, caught up and we were in amongst it and the atmosphere was fantastic.

5:06Jessi Brilliant. Did you sleep at all overnight or was it full party party?

5:09Rob There was a little lull just before the sun came up as everyone's not getting a little bit jaded, but I think everyone's just kind of quietened down a bit and everyone starts, you know, sitting down, getting their chairs out if they haven't already done so. There weren't There were a couple of tents, but not as many as the year before. It did rain a little bit in the queue, but not enough for me to get my big coat out. So, you know, it was okay.

5:36Jessi What time did they open the gates and what time were you in and done?

5:38Rob So I think they opened the gates almost bang on.

5:42Jessi Bang on 8.

5:43Rob Bang on 8 o'clock this time. I remember previously they opened them a little bit early, but I don't know if you were following, because I had my Instagram out, people were posting pictures because obviously Michael and Emily opened one of the gates at bang on 8. So it was brilliant. I was watching that. But because, because I already had my exact plan of where we were going, we were through. So the gates opened at 8, and by, I think, 8:45, I was laying in my tent. Nice. Yeah, ready for your morning nap. Absolutely, absolutely.

6:12Jessi Yeah, yeah, yeah. Excellent. That's not bad. 8 o'clock straight in, 8:45.

6:15Rob Yeah, I'd say that's probably a record, actually. Yeah, yeah, yeah.

6:19Jessi How about you, Miguel? What sort of time did your coach get there? How were your, you know, bunch of newbie friends that you brought with you?

6:24Miguel If you have a routine, Rob, this year for me was completely different than any The exact opposite. Actually, my years change all the time, what happens with me. So yeah, this year I had a big group of friends who were coming for the first time, and well, everyone had all the information, listened to our podcast. Yeah, but as we say, you cannot explain— you can, I mean, you can explain a lot to someone about the site.

6:46Jessi There's only so much you can prepare.

6:47Miguel There's only so much you can prepare someone. So the journey started at Victoria Coach Station in London. Everyone got tickets for the same time, which was 6 in the morning, which was I wish it was earlier than that.

6:57Jessi Yeah.

6:57Miguel But my plan was that from my experience from previous years, they just do like a single queue and they just fill buses as they arrive and get people on the road. So we got there actually at 4 in the morning, but they were doing a single queue and actually checking tickets.

7:10Rob Were they actually sending the early buses empty if there were people that didn't make it?

7:15Miguel I don't think it would— I didn't— yeah, that's a good question. I don't think they would go that far.

7:20Rob Right.

7:21Miguel But a lot of people would be at the front of the queue and they wouldn't get them go through to catch a bus. They would have to come back. And then there was a lot of back and forth. And yeah, so then we have to wait, and it was only near our time to depart at 6 in the morning that some more employees arrived and they actually started doing this system where just make a single queue, just get on. But then, so basically we did get the bus at 6 in the morning.

7:41Rob Yeah.

7:41Miguel So that was like, oh, I wish it was 5 at least.

7:45Rob Yeah.

7:45Miguel But the journey was very, very nice actually. We didn't catch any traffic. I was like, where is everyone?

7:51Rob Yeah.

7:51Miguel So we arrived on site, I think about 10. Which was 4 hours.

7:55Rob That's not too bad, really. Not too bad at all.

7:57Miguel Yeah, I had worse years. And when we— and well, the advantage of the coach, actually, you arrive straight at the gate, Gate A. And the queue felt like, oh, this is quite a big queue, actually. And that's the first moment where my friends were like, oh yes, okay, it's a lot of people, right? How long we got? And they're all making me questions like I would have all the answers.

8:21Jessi How long do you think we're going to be here queuing?

8:23Miguel I don't know, it could be 1, 2 hours. Yeah. And then everyone's already feeling the weight of the backpacks and all the alcohol. Of course, someone who didn't listen to me and bought the wrong trolley was already like about to lose some wheels on the queue to the gate. But I cannot complain, it went fairly well. And then of course, after we got through the gate, there was a long walk towards the campsite of our choice, which was Park Homeground. Hopefully I would meet Rob over there.

8:54Rob It's the best one.

8:55Miguel Yeah, they gave us some direction, but because it was like, I think we had 10 tents in total. So half of us went ahead just with the tents to move faster and we were watching the spots around us and we saw good, oh, this is quite good. There's a lot of space still at Dairy Ground, which is before Pains and then before Park Home Ground. But let's try to keep going a bit further. And then we realized—

9:17Rob It's like that gamble.

9:18Miguel I think we won't find a spot for 10 tents. And because everyone, all of them were coming for the first time, we're like, oh, let's stick together. Well, I'll stay with you. But part of me wanted to take my tent.

9:29Rob Yeah, just go.

9:30Miguel But anyway, we end up camping at Dairy Grounds, which is, yeah, it's still a good spot. Not as close as I would like to be to the water tap.

9:38Rob Our group had 4 tents. No, 3 tents, 4 people. And we, we could have had the pick of the place.

9:45Miguel It was—

9:45Jessi yeah.

9:45Rob Yeah. I mean, the idea of getting there any later than that, just, I could— I don't think I could cope.

9:52Miguel What about you, Jessi? How was your arrivals this year?

9:55Jessi Yeah, uh, it actually went really smoothly. I was really kind of anxious beforehand because you always think, oh, maybe they've changed something massively. Or again, all my friends, as you, as you just said, Miguel, all of my friends look at me and go, oh, but how far is it from here? And, you know, so you think you know something and then, you know, it might— they might change it up. And it obviously had been 2 years, so— but no, it all went very well. We, uh, a group of us had sort of convoyed down from London. We met at our usual petrol station on the A303 at about, I think, 3:30. We got there, nobody was late, everybody's on time, like brilliant. Got a coffee there, uh, and off we got. Got into the car park, I think about 4:30-ish, got all our stuff together, and then yeah, walked to the queue at Gate C. So we were in the queue from probably about 5, I think, by the time we got there and got everything there. I had my trolley, which was amazing. Yeah, yeah, honestly, follow the good advice. So yeah, that was, that was my best purchase of the summer, but that's a story for another day. But yeah, so we got in the queue, uh, and we all just kind of sat there and I'd had— I was having a couple of ciders, but most of my friends just sort of fell asleep with their jackets over their heads kind of thing. But yeah, uh, we were closer than we were some years but further away than other years in the queue. We were sort of a middle ground as far as, you know, my friends were going like, oh, how close are we to the gate? I said, well, we've done better before, but we've also done worse, so this is okay. Um, I think we got our wristbands at about 8:30, 8:40, so again, sort of not long after the gate had opened. And, uh, yeah, rushed up to Big Ground and we managed to get pretty much— we had like an open field almost. So I think the, the process at the gates was a lot slower than in previous years from other places because we actually got to the field and there was lots of space left, whereas before we've got there about 9 and it's been, you know—

11:36Rob Rammo.

11:37Jessi Well, I wouldn't say rammo, but like we had to be really like, okay, there's a spot there, run, get it. Whereas this time there was still, you know, a bit of choice available for even my, you know, my group's amount of tents. But the one thing with the trolley is that all my friends managed to run up the hill and I was carrying a trolley that had 8 sort of 10-kilo tents on it.

11:56Rob Oh no.

11:57Jessi So bless them, they all, they all ran up there, put their stuff down, and then 4 of them came to help me. I was like trying to get this thing up the hill, um, because that last bit up Big Ground is pretty steep. But yeah, no, really good. Got in, got all the tents, and then very swiftly kind of went out to the car and round again. I think the only like problem with my arrival this year is that where we were parked was probably the furthest car park that I've been From the gate. It was very wiggly around to get to. I don't know why we arrived really early. It was just the way they were filling them in.

12:26Rob Just the opposite to me then, because I—

12:27Jessi Yeah, you did very well. Yeah, yeah, I, I, yeah, that was the one thing that was a bit of a— not shame, but you know, I mean, it doesn't matter, we still had a really good time. But that was the only kind of thing that could have been better, is that they weren't filling us in, you know, they were filling us in a very strange way basically.

12:42Rob But, um, did it make getting out quicker and easier or a little difference? No, just looking for a positive.

12:48Jessi Yeah, no, no, it didn't make much difference on getting out either. But, um, no, it was fine. It was totally fine. I'd much rather that than, you know, any, any other kind of problem with the, with the arrival. Yeah, yeah, all good.

12:58Miguel Well, when my coach departed London at 6 in the morning, I was— I had high hopes that by 2 or 3 in the afternoon I will be like everything done in my campsite and I would have my first— do my routine. Yeah, yeah, my first sip of a little bit of alcohol or crack open a can. No, it took a— it took more than that. I think it was, it was Pretty much, I think, 5, or that I got everything, right? Because of everything, helping guys with the tents. You were too busy. And everything.

13:24Rob You were shepherding.

13:25Miguel So basically I was actually done, and like, okay, let me just enjoy. By the time I went to meet you guys—

13:29Jessi Ah, but wait, you didn't even have to go back to the car, so I had to do it.

13:33Miguel Yeah, yeah.

13:33Jessi Uh, actually in the end I managed to do it in one second run to the car. I definitely thought I was gonna have to do 2 because I overpacked big time.

13:40Rob Oh no, I, I did mine in one, and then The normal—

13:45Miguel You sent a picture of your trolley.

13:46Rob Yeah, that's it.

13:47Miguel My proudest achievement.

13:48Rob That's it. It was a whole crate smaller, and I reckon I can go smaller again next year. But so the second run for the alcohol, because none of it was mine, I just gave the trolley to my, to my friends and said, yeah, off you go.

13:59Jessi That's impressive, honestly. I took like— well, I think the thing is, my first run-in, all I had was my backpack, uh, which is I guess my big bulkiest item, and then everyone's tents. So I didn't have any room on the, on the trolley for my booze or, or all of my outfits and headdresses and various forms Um, so yeah, the second time was, was a bit more difficult, um, but it's fine, we got there in the end. All good.

14:22Rob Yeah, yeah, yeah, brilliant.

14:23Miguel I don't know if I— it seems like I'm complaining too much. I just want to say, tell some of my friends, you guys did okay.

14:28Rob Okay, okay, okay, room for improvement.

14:33Jessi Well, I was— yeah, I was all set up and ready and done my second run to the car by midday, so I feel like—

14:38Rob That is good.

14:39Jessi Yeah, that is good.

14:39Rob Actually, one highlight for me in the queue, which was, which was quite exciting, um, was, uh, someone recognizing Me and talking about GlastoCast.

14:47Miguel Yeah.

14:47Rob No, yeah, that happened to me.

14:50Jessi I walked to the toilet in the, uh, in the queue for Gate C. I was just talking to my mate as we were walking to the toilet, and somebody sort of like— I heard them sort of— well, I saw them sort of nudging each other and like listening to what we were saying. I was like, it's very odd. We went to the toilet, and on our way back, they sort of ran up to me. This girl ran up to me and stopped me and went, excuse me, you really sound like— do you do that podcast? I was like, yes.

15:10Rob Celebrity moment. Yeah, celebrity moment.

15:13Jessi There you go. Good. So it's interesting to think that in one of our last podcasts that went out, uh, literally a couple of days before the festival started, we were talking about the weather and our hopes for the weather and how it had been raining the week before. And, you know, we were all talking— I think I even said like, like, it'd be really nice if we move our tent on the last day and it'll be the only patch of green because it'll be scorched, you know. We were joking about it being hot, but wow, this was the hottest Glastonbury I've ever been to. Um, and I think before when I've— there's been a hot day, it's been like one day that was— oh, I don't want to say unbearable, but like really hot. And then the rest of the time it was quite mild, whereas this festival was every day.

16:05Rob It was just constant, relentless, wasn't it?

16:07Jessi Yeah. So, um, I know like a lot of people will have watched it on the BBC and gone, God, that looks amazing, Glastonbury Funny, but it is difficult, guys, isn't it? Like, it is to, to be living outdoors in that environment where there's not loads of shade and having to try and sleep in a tent. So how did you guys cope? Was there anything you particularly did, Miguel, that you—

16:25Miguel Well, first of all, I still prefer that to mud.

16:28Jessi Oh yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah, yeah. I would have taken this.

16:31Miguel I think only by Friday I've realized I had to adapt myself to this new condition. Yeah, because I'd never done a Glastonbury that was so hot. So I think Wednesday and Thursday I doing what I usually do every year at Glastonbury, every time at Glastonbury. And then by Friday I realized, no, I need to start slow, stay, stay in some shade during the afternoon. And then that's what happened then for the rest of the weekend. I would, I would wake up and just take it slow, sit down sometimes in the shade. Maybe we're gonna talk about this later in the episode. It meant I was missing some acts, or I was changing my plans to be able to at least enjoy more. In the evening, come the evening.

17:09Jessi Yeah, when it cools down a bit.

17:10Miguel Cools down a little bit.

17:11Jessi Yeah. Were there any like shady bits that you found? Like, there's not much shade at Glastonbury, but for example, did you go to the woods? I didn't, but I loved— you talk about the Glade a lot. I loved the, um, the Spike Bar. Like, that was— yeah, it was difficult to get in there. You had to almost get a spot early because of the shade. But like, were there any like sort of bits that you wouldn't have maybe have explored that you found or anything like that?

17:31Miguel Usually we go up the hill at the park and that will be somewhere where I could Sit down under a shade or the Stonebridge Bar, surprisingly, was quite empty sometimes during the afternoon. So I would have a cold beer there for a while, or I always like to go to Circus or Cabaret. And then you can, you can even watch an act that you weren't planning on.

17:49Rob That's a tent where you can get shade, isn't it?

17:50Jessi Yeah.

17:51Rob And it's not unbearably hot.

17:52Miguel And it wasn't very hot.

17:53Jessi Yeah.

17:53Miguel You'd go in there, you think, oh no, it's going to be awful inside there. But no, it wasn't. I was taking some naps in the afternoon around sites, basically.

18:01Rob I was just waiting for you to finish because that's what I was about to say. That's the one thing with the sun for me is that it makes me sleepy. And this was the first proper year with me having no hair at Glastonbury, so obviously I had to be a lot more careful with regards to using sun cream and stuff. So I was fully loaded up all the time just in case. But yeah, if I stopped too long, I was sitting down and it was nice, and then I'd just be kind of like, oh, getting a bit sleepy. So I just, I chose to just kind of keep going as best I could. That the thing we talked about filling your water bottle up every time you walk past somewhere, I was on that. Yeah. I was drinking a lot of water actually this year. I found but I kind of had to.

18:35Jessi I think I drank like 4 or 5 liters.

18:37Rob It certainly felt like it, didn't it?

18:39Jessi Yeah.

18:39Rob And it was just nice to be able to just keep topping it up because it was constantly cold then. I mean, I don't know if you— I had a metal bottle and I also had a metal cup, so I'd fill them both up, so bottle went in the bag, had a nice cold water, and then, yeah, drink it. It didn't have time to get hot because I was drinking it so quick. So the plus for me was I packed quite a lot of outfits for me, which I don't normally do, but the reason was because I have so many different pairs of shorts and shirt combos, and I got to wear them all. I got to wear them all. I absolutely loved it. You know, if you ask my friends, I'm not usually a, a kind of hot weather guy. Yeah. Um, but you know, got my shades on and my shorts and my matching shirts. I was, I was well happy.

19:18Jessi So you were wearing co-ords? You had matching shirts?

19:20Rob Oh, I do. I have different combinations. But yeah, one of, one of my absolute favorite outfits is matching, uh, shirt shorts. It's white with parrots on. Amazing.

19:30Jessi Yeah, I'm really annoyed I didn't see this.

19:31Rob You love it?

19:32Jessi Yeah. Why didn't you wear that to Glasto? Honestly.

19:34Miguel Anyway. Well, myself, I've been taking the same outfits for Glastonbury since a few years now, and it's ready for any type of weather.

19:42Jessi Awesome.

19:42Miguel It's my convertible trousers. I didn't have to use the bits this year.

19:46Rob Well, that's packing lightly, isn't it? Packing lightly.

19:48Miguel But I did feel like, again, I think the hot weather affected a little bit of my enjoyment because I didn't watch many acts inside tents like Avalon or even Joe Peel, which is a bigger one, because I would head towards that tent, and when you get there, it's already slightly packed, and maybe there's already people standing outside, and I was feeling so hot, like, I don't want to go inside. inside the crowd now, inside the tent. So I was, I was watching many acts from just sitting outside, trying to find some shade near the tent, which again, it was a different way to enjoy. But yeah, the hot weather brings that new element, which I feel like I didn't experience before at Glastonbury, to that level at least.

20:22Rob I think there was quite a lot of people from walking around, like, not, not pushing forward, but, you know, really relaxed and enjoying laying down on the grass kind of midway, halfway back. I mean, West Holts was Absolutely packed for like the whole time, it seemed to me, like literally every, every, every day. But, you know, everyone was super chilled out. It was really nice. But, and I think that seems to be a very breezy place, doesn't it? Because of all the flags flapping. So I think there's a lot going on there. So I think it's kind of everyone congregated there in a hope that it might be a bit breezy.

20:53Miguel Yeah. Well, so the consensus is hot weather is still better than muddy.

20:57Rob Oh, absolutely.

20:58Miguel However, don't study Tower of Pisa for your time.

21:00Rob That's it.

21:01Jessi Yeah. think that's the thing for me. It was just that tiny bit too— I mean, I pushed through. I obviously had my Factor 50 on, I had a couple of like big hats that I wore, and you know, I still enjoyed myself. But it just felt like— I think the first few days were okay, they were doable, they were manageable. But the Saturday for me, yeah, there was a lot of people I really wanted to see on the Saturday. And I, I mean, it didn't help that the Friday night was one of the nights that I stayed up till sunrise and then beyond. I think I went to bed at 6:30, 7 in the morning, something like that. So that didn't help. But I did manage to get like 4 hours, you know, I think I slept through till midday, maybe 4 or 5 hours sleep, something like that. But then the whole of Saturday afternoon, I just woke up pretty much, you know, I jumped straight out of my sleeping bag by about 9 AM and then tried to sleep in the shade of my tent, didn't really work. And then the whole of Saturday afternoon was just, we got ready and then it was like we just didn't want to move. It was that really thick air as well and just baking hot, not— no, no breeze or anything. So in the end we thought, right, we'll go and try and find somewhere. And we ended up at The Glade under some of their, um, not actually in the Spike Bar, but you know, they have those, um, kind of colorful almost— I don't know what to call them, but they have those kind of colorful sheets. Canopies. Yeah, yeah. So we just ended up finding a spot in there, which again, it was like packed like sardines under there, but we sat under there for a couple of hours and listened to Lewis Capaldi from there, which was okay. And it was also when Carl Cox was doing his 3-hour afternoon thing. So it was quite nice. At least we had some good seats.

22:25Miguel Yeah, I, I did that. I was— I wasn't around the Glades doing Carl Cox, just sitting down having some cold drinks every now and then from the Glade Bar, which So connected. I have an affinity.

22:35Jessi I saw your friends at the Glade.

22:37Miguel Yeah, which is funny. Funny thing that my couple of friends, which I helped them get the spot to volunteer this year, they were selected to be at the same bar that I was.

22:45Jessi Yeah, they worked for Shelter, didn't they? Like you were. And then they went, I know you. I was like, okay, you're my girlfriend.

22:52Rob I spent a lot of my time at Glade this year. Yeah, I really, really enjoyed it.

22:56Jessi It was amazing. And I— did you get— did you see Dub Pistols like I recommended?

23:00Rob No.

23:00Jessi Oh, it was one of my faves.

23:01Rob I don't— I think I managed managed to avoid seeing all the things I planned because I was just quite happy. This year I saw more music than ever before because I, I don't know, I was sleeping a lot better. I wasn't staying out quite as late, uh, and I just was making the most of each day. I had a— I had— it was a very different year for me, but I, I thoroughly enjoyed it.

23:22Miguel You matured.

23:22Rob Yeah, do you know what I did? I, I kind of— don't get me wrong, I, I have every intention of, you know, still, you know, staying out all night and partying, but I just— the way it all— the way it worked out each day was I was waking up having had a good sleep, feeling great and starting early, lots of wandering, but also just a lot of music. I think because I'd had the opposite in 2018—

23:45Jessi '17.

23:46Rob '17, where I was too busy exploring and I didn't see really that much music, I went the other way this time and I saw some great, great people. I mean, don't get me wrong, I didn't look who a lot of them were. I was just quite happy to enjoy the music without necessarily knowing who it was. And actually that happened quite a few times, but nonetheless, I had a great Was there anything like—

24:07Jessi what was your— let's go on to highlights now. What was your like— let's do musical highlights.

24:11Rob Musical highlights.

24:12Jessi What was your like number— well, maybe number 1, number 2. What were your top kind of bands that you saw or acts that you saw?

24:17Rob Um, so out of the ones I was planning to see, I think, um, could potentially be a controversial choice, which I don't really know. I thought Miley Cyrus was brilliant.

24:26Jessi Oh no, she was so good. Like, fully—

24:29Miguel I missed that one.

24:30Rob I missed that one. It was just brilliant from start. I, I thought it was fantastic. Yeah. And that's worth a wow fantastic, I think.

24:37Jessi Wow fantastic.

24:38Rob I enjoyed it immensely.

24:40Jessi Yeah, Miley Cyrus was amazing. Yeah, that was—

24:43Rob I mean, it was almost like you could— you could— whether it— you could say future headline level of good, I don't know, but I— it was just start to finish a great show. She was great.

24:51Jessi I mean, the only thing is, is that Billy Ray Cyrus definitely not singing. The amount of times that his part in the song started and he was nowhere near a microphone.

25:00Rob And he just wandered off, didn't he, and sat at the side of the stage. I thought the stewards kind of looked at him, where's this guy going? And he just, he sat below the screen and just watched the show. I mean, in fairness, if, if, you know, my daughter or, or son or whoever was performing and I could watch them like he watched it, I would just be like absolutely blown away, you know. So I'm not— I don't blame him for a second for doing it. It must have been incredible to see.

25:24Jessi Yeah, no, I definitely agree.

25:25Rob Miley Cyrus.

25:25Jessi But anybody else? Any other How was Anne-Marie? Did she accept your proposal?

25:30Rob Obviously I was at the front, um, for that.

25:34Jessi Yes.

25:34Rob But yeah, no, unfortunately, uh, we didn't make eye contact or anything like that, which is a shame, you know, because, you know, I was ready to propose. But sadly she was busy entertaining the crowd, so she's forgiven. You called me out.

25:48Jessi Well, it had to happen.

25:52Rob Sorry.

25:53Jessi Yeah. How about you, Miguel?

25:54Miguel Any like Well, the highlight, highlight for me has to be The Cure. I said that when we were talking about what we're expecting from this Glastonbury, I said, well, The Cure is playing, so that's done for me, don't need anything else.

26:06Jessi How crazy!

26:06Miguel And we were super right at the front. I think it's the closest I've been to the stage in the Pyramid.

26:12Rob Oh, right.

26:13Miguel I watched Vampire Weekend, who played just before The Cure, and I was making my way. Vampire Weekend was quite fun, they did a very efficient gig, but then The Cure, I think, was mind-blowing. Yeah, yeah, the band was sounding fantastic, and even reading comments after coming back to London, a lot of people said that it was the loudest— no, it was the loudest?

26:33Jessi That was The Killers.

26:34Miguel That was The Killers, damn. So scratch that.

26:37Jessi But still, I thought that for a lot of sets, I was like, I was really impressed. I think they've really upped the kind of sound.

26:44Rob There was a lot of people, a lot of negative things about the sound on various different festivals this year, which I noticed from reading things, but it's never occurred to me to really pay any more attention because it always sounds great, I think, at Glastonbury.

26:56Miguel But if I would say maybe choose a second highlight, I did go to the Not So Secret Fall set.

27:01Jessi Oh yeah, up at The Park.

27:03Miguel Yeah.

27:04Jessi Did you actually manage to get anywhere near it? My friends tried and couldn't.

27:07Miguel I was super near it.

27:08Jessi Really?

27:08Miguel I was just by myself and then I made my way easily. The spot where I was, the sound was great and the atmosphere and with the crowd I mean, the Falls fans, they put on a really good gig together with the band. So yeah, it was quite a strong set, I thought. You say maybe Miley Cyrus was putting on a headlining set, the Falls name has been going around now.

27:30Rob And so I know we were talking about John Peel before, but see, I've always had this, this thing with John Peel. Wherever I choose to go and see someone, by the time I get there, because I'm not early like you, I wanted to go see The Streets, we're talking maybe 30, 40 people deep outside the tent. So, you know, I— Strummerville's one of those tents I don't go to as many as the others, and it reminds me of when I, when I went to see Bastille there, and they were like 20 deep outside the tent as well. So I must just pick the ones where everybody wants to go. So I went to see The Streets thinking it was going to be like a super, like, real highlight for me. Don't get me wrong, I thoroughly enjoyed it and it was very, very good, but the atmosphere was all inside the tent, you know?

28:09Miguel Yeah, yeah.

28:10Rob So it was all a lot of people outside the tent wishing they were inside, uh, watching people inside that just looked like he was having an amazing time. And, and he was just— yeah, he was brilliant. I'd have loved to have been in there. Absolutely loved it. Jessi, how about you?

28:21Jessi Well, I, I was just gonna come on from the end of that and say, actually, I saw The Streets at Boomtown because I'd missed them at Glastonbury, right? And they were amazing.

28:30Rob Yeah, yeah, yeah.

28:31Jessi Mike Skinner, absolute legend. Um, my Glasto favorites— so again, I think the ones that I'd sort of planned to see— I have to say, I think my ultimate favorite was actually The Killers. Yeah, which is weird because I wasn't really all that bothered about any Pyramid headliners, but I was like, I'll go and see The Killers. But you know, you kind of forget how many bangers they have.

28:51Miguel Yeah.

28:51Jessi Basically, like, I know all the words to most of these songs, but they are— they do have way more kind of tracks than you remember, you know. And it was just— it was just the atmosphere again was amazing. Like, the way that they kind of dressed the Pyramid Stage, the lights were beautiful. We were, you know, close in Pyramid terms. I wouldn't say close, we were sort of just a tiny bit behind the sound desk, right? Um, but we had a really good view. And this was one of the moments where we had all kind of 30 of my mates were all in one space and we all were just like having peak best time. We all just kept looking at each other and hugging each other and screaming the words in each other's face and things. And it was just, yeah, it was a really good couple of hours. I enjoyed it way more than I thought I would.

29:30Rob Excellent.

29:30Jessi And then I think my probably second best would be, I can't really name one thing, but my Thursday was definitely my best day this year.

29:38Rob Yeah.

29:39Jessi Which is unusual. And like, it started with Twisto, which was great fun. So when you guys were there, amazing. Had a really good time. time. But we left there a little bit early to go and see, um, the end of Beans on Toast at the Greenpeace stage, which was rammed. Like, we barely could see him. We had to really fight to even see, like, him on the stage. But after Beans on Toast, it was a run of people that I loved on that stage. So it went Beans on Toast, then Will Varley, then Too Many Teas, then Oh My God! It's The Church but as a DJ set, uh, and then it was Dutty Moonshine Big Band. And it— like, all of those are all my favorites. Um, so we just such a good afternoon in the sun just at the Greenpeace stage. The bar there was serving really great cocktails and we just— yeah, it was amazing.

30:23Rob Loving life.

30:23Jessi Yeah, it was really, really good. Um, and then I got to watch Dirty Moonshine Big Band from the side of the Greenpeace stage, which was awesome. So that was really good fun as well. And then went to Elvana. I'm not sure if I mentioned this.

30:34Rob I can't remember. I know what you mean. Yeah, yeah.

30:37Jessi So Elvana is, uh, a band that is Elvis-fronted Nirvana. So they play Nirvana songs, but their frontman man is, you know, a wannabe Elvis, for, for want of a better word. And it is incredible. So they do mashups of— that sort of start as an Elvis song and then go into Nirvana, and it's amazing.

30:57Rob Wow.

30:57Jessi Honestly, I like— it was one of my, like, discoveries of the summer. Oh, we had the best— we ended up seeing them twice at Glasto. This one, they were at the, uh, Williams Green stage on the, um, Thursday after— Thursday evening, pretty much. And we got there nice and early, which was good because my mates, uh, it was me and 3 friends, and then the rest of my mates had tried to come but they get anywhere near it. This is why I was talking about it, because it's you saying can't get anywhere near the tent. But we were literally right at the front holding on to the barrier. He was coming down into the crowd. It was just— oh, it was sweaty in that tent. Yeah, but everyone was going nuts. Excellent. Like headbanging extraordinaire. It was just— yeah, it was beautiful. Like, and then we went off to the Southeast Corner, just had a really great time. Thursday was honestly, I think, my best day.

31:38Miguel I actually have a highlight for Thursday evening as well, which I— this year I spent way more time at the Crow's Nest than in previous years. And Thursday evening, Al Doyle from Hot Chip made a DJ set. And when we got there with my friends, it was just what we needed. Yeah, yeah, yeah. We were just dancing inside the Crow's Nest and he was just putting some really good tunes.

31:56Jessi I can't believe I'm going to ask this. Where's the Crow's Nest? I should know that. Why don't I know that?

32:01Miguel It's just up the hill, sort of on the left, passing the park.

32:06Jessi Yeah, towards the Glastonbury sign.

32:07Miguel That's why I don't know. And they have a lot of— yeah, and they have secret sets during all the 5 days, sometimes DJs, sometimes bands. So yeah, we danced a lot into the night on Thursday.

32:18Rob You just reminded me, I had a front of the stage on the barrier moment this year as well, where I actually got there an act and a half early because I was quite— Am I right? No, no, quite the opposite. Jeff Goldblum.

32:33Jessi Oh yeah.

32:34Rob So I've been learning the piano for a few years now. now, which I didn't realise he played until quite recently. He's a legend anyway, massive hero of mine. So to find out that he's a jazz pianist, I was like, I absolutely have to go. So I changed my plans a little bit because I was, I was umming and ahhing, but I was like, no, I absolutely have to go. And I was there at the front and he came out. This is brilliant. He's like doing the soundcheck, isn't he? They were doing the soundcheck anyway. He comes out and he grabs a microphone and he just starts being Jeff Goldblum. He's absolutely amazing. He's such a character and he's chatting away. And one of the sound guys comes over and says, look, what time do you want to start? And he's like, well, I kind of feel like I already have started. So they shut his microphone off. They're like, you can't start. You're not allowed to start until your set time. So he then is like, all right. So he puts his microphone down and just talks to anyone that can hear, basically causing trouble in the best, most funniest way.

33:27Jessi Classic, like, festival Jeff.

33:27Rob Anyway, just a total performance, an absolute performance. He's possibly even more quirky in real life than you could ever imagine. And one of the things they do at West Holts is Sometimes they have the, the acts will do a signing afterwards, just to stage right. So I thought, oh, I was going to see Kylie, but Jeff Goldblum is— so in the end I stayed. So I went over to the tent where they do the signings and just to confirm, they said, yeah, absolutely. There was already a couple of people there. So we decided, right, well, we'll sit down and form a queue. And it was, it was about an hour and a half possibly wait. I can't remember exactly, but it was quite a while. So we sat there and I did one of my nodding off because it was sunny. That was me. But yeah, everyone, when I woke up, I was like, okay. Oh good, I haven't missed it. Turned around and the queue for the— for this signing was absolutely massive. It went straight across the West Holts field and I was like, oh, thank God that I came over anyway. So I queued up and met him and was chatting, got ushered on quite quickly, which is a shame. I was saying, oh, you know, I've learned— I'm learning to play the piano. He said, oh really? Excellent, good luck with that. I said, yeah, well, hopefully if it all goes well, a couple of years you can come and see me play at Glastonbury.

34:30Jessi Cheeky!

34:32Rob I know, just a little laugh. Brilliant. Met him, shook his hand, signed a vinyl for me. Brilliant day, absolutely loved it.

34:40Jessi I really wanted to go and see him, but, uh, one of— another of my big group plans kind of got in the way. You mentioned Kylie. So we had made a flag, um, of Kylie in her classic— I think it's the— I want to say Spinning Around, I can't get it out of my head— the white outfit that she wears. So we made a flag of that, but we'd photoshopped my mate's face onto it instead of Kylie. Excellent. Um, so we'd all said, right, we're all going to meet up for Kylie and we're going to take the flag down to the Pyramid Stage. I've never done that before, but we thought we've got to do it this time. We've got to try and get the Kylie flag, our Kylie flag, on TV during Kylie. And it was super fun. The, the, uh, my mate, uh, I might as well name him, he's called Tom, um, bless him, had gone and got the white outfit. So we were wearing the matching white outfit at the time, and his boyfriend was dressed as Miley. So they were Kylie and Miley.

35:30Miguel Brilliant.

35:30Jessi It was brilliant. So yeah, Miley, like, he was in like a little white tank top, white shorts, and had like the wrecking ball. It just brilliant. So yeah, we took our, um, flag down to the, to the main stage and watched Kylie, and she was again way better. I think I mentioned to you guys, I was like, I'm really not fussed about Kylie as a, as a— what do they call it— Sunday afternoon kind of legend slot. I was like, oh, Kylie, really? But actually she was really, really good. She brought out Nick Cave from Nick Cave and the Bad Seeds. Like, we all just lost it when she brought him out. I was like, what? And we did get the flag on Oh, so I might actually put it out on our Twitter. I might like put it out. And there's a— like, my mate took a screenshot of the BBC and it's— you can see the back of Kylie and her microphone and quite clearly our flag there.

36:16Miguel Excellent.

36:16Jessi Yeah, it was really good.

36:18Rob Excellent.

36:21Jessi So you've heard a little bit about what we got up to at Glastonbury. We could talk about that for Actual hours. We might have to spread that out over a few episodes. We need to do another episode. Um, but one thing I wanted to talk about in this particular episode is the new things that were brought in for 2019, this Glastonbury. So let's start with— let's go with Arcadia. Obviously Arcadia had a massive overhaul. Uh, it used to be the Arcadia Spider, and then we learned it was going to be Pangea, uh, and it was going to be a crane, and everyone was kind of like, oh, what's it gonna be like? So what do we think? Did anybody— did you guys go?

36:54Rob Well, I obviously camped right near it, so I saw from as soon as we got there, it was, it was already up. They were doing a lot of the— I don't want to say warm-ups, but you know, what do you call it? Testing. Testing and stuff like that. So I was looking at it thinking, oh, if I'm being perfectly honest, I thought, oh, it's just a crane. So I was like, oh, okay, well, not really, you know. Then they started doing a little bit of practice with it. I say, okay, it spins. Well, I don't know if that's going to be any good. So, you know, So to then see it in full operation, it was, you know, ah, I get it.

37:29Jessi Wow.

37:29Miguel Oh wow.

37:29Rob Oh, so that does that.

37:30Jessi Oh wow.

37:31Rob Yeah, lots of wows. Yeah, but just so to go from being almost kind of like, um, not underwhelmed but not really sure what they're going to do with this crane, to seeing it in operation, I thought it was— yeah, it was brilliant.

37:41Jessi How about you, Miguel? Did you get down there?

37:43Miguel Uh, I did. Yeah. And I, I think the same, same thing happened. Yeah, it was quite impressive. It didn't feel it at first, and I think that the first days they were having because it was quite windy, but I didn't get to see this thing with the moon, which you didn't get to see.

37:56Jessi No, I didn't see the moon either.

37:57Miguel But it was very impressive. But I think we are always gonna be a bit nostalgic with the Spidey for now.

38:03Rob Yeah, exactly.

38:03Miguel And this is a work in progress, so I'm sure they're gonna have something even more mind-blowing for the second year. But I can tell from my friends who were new to Glastonbury, they were—

38:13Jessi yeah.

38:13Rob Yeah, their reaction was spot on.

38:14Miguel Their reaction was, they were, this is insane.

38:17Jessi Yeah.

38:17Rob What is this?

38:19Miguel What is this Spidey you're talking about? This is nuts.

38:21Jessi Well, I think the thing is is that I got there and went, oh yeah, it's just a crane. And obviously I'm not camped anywhere near it, we just saw it from the other side of the valley basically. But when we went over there for, uh, I think it was Friday night, went over there, it was— yeah, like you get under it, it's way bigger than the spider.

38:38Rob Yeah, yeah.

38:38Jessi I've done Arcadia under the spider numerous times, and though it looks amazingly cool in photos, actually the spider in real life isn't really that big. Do you know what I mean? Yeah. You see it and you think, oh, this thing looks massively impressive, but actually actually, it's— it is impressive, but it's a lot smaller than you expect. Whereas this crane was really big.

38:56Rob Yeah.

38:56Jessi Like, I couldn't believe, like, how tall it was, how just the scale of it was huge. But the other thing that I quite liked, I didn't realize until we, we actually went there for when it was, you know, fully going for it and there were DJs playing, is that you actually could get underneath it. Like, you, you couldn't necessarily, like, you know, look up and see. You could see the feet of— like, we were watching the feet of Carl Cox stomping around. You could still get kind of in it. Like, it felt like you were that same immersive, like, yeah, oh, and the fire was kind of shooting out from above you. And when the crane was spinning around and the lasers were sort of pointing down from it, like, it did still have that immersive feel of you being a part of it. So I, I was, I was more impressed when we went. When I first got there, I was sort of thinking, oh, this is going to be a bit meh. But I am a bit gutted I missed, um, missed the moon.

39:45Miguel Yeah, as you said, like, so did they have some sort of show? Because Arcadia had— it was Metamorphosis, isn't it?

39:50Jessi I was told there was a show, um, but I don't know. I think it was supposed to involve the moon every time, but I'm not sure. I think quite a few days they couldn't do it because of the wind, but they had their, um, big trucks there as well, like the big— I think they call them the Beatles or something. So I think there was a show, but yeah.

40:05Rob Well, if anyone has got any videos that they can tag us in, that would be excellent.

40:09Jessi Yeah, I haven't actually checked. We should probably check if there are any, like, official Arcadia ones. But yeah, so I think it was— you're right, it's, um, they've said it's, it's going to be a permanent fixture for at least 4 years, aren't they? So hopefully it'll, you know, go bigger and bigger from that. But the actual size of the crane was the one thing that really blew my mind.

40:27Miguel I love that they now, they painted the crane green so it matches the farm, the surroundings of the farms during the year.

40:33Jessi Yeah, I saw that.

40:34Miguel So it doesn't scare the cows.

40:35Jessi Yeah, they've actually painted it so it blends in. I love that. And the next new thing, uh, Glastonbury on Sea. So I mean, this was really impressive. Again, I, I was a bit when we— they showed on, uh, Instagram and on Twitter like some of the drawings that they've done of it. I thought it would either be tiny or that they wouldn't get it done in time, but when I saw it in real life, I was like, this is massive. Like, it's a huge structure they've put in there.

40:58Rob It was proper up here, wasn't it?

40:59Miguel Yeah.

41:00Jessi So who, who got down there?

41:01Rob Well, I'll go first because, um, you know, I didn't quite get to see it. I mean, I saw it, but I went to, to go up there on the Wednesday and the Thursday, and both times you couldn't get on it because it was, it wasn't open yet. I didn't realise that.

41:13Jessi Yeah, I think they had some, it was supposed to open on the Thursday.

41:16Rob Yeah, I'm not sure whether there was a delay or something, but obviously it needed to be done properly. But yeah, so both times I went, it was, you couldn't go onto it. So I just saw it kind of from, from around the sides. So it looked, yeah, like you say, it looked massive, like a proper pier, but I didn't actually get to go on it because by then I was off doing other things.

41:33Miguel Yeah, I went on it, uh, I think it was Saturday afternoon and it was surprisingly quite empty actually. I just walked straight Yeah, and you mentioned the drawings, and when we were reading about it before Glasto happened, like, oh, how's this gonna look? And they were explaining that they wanted to convey this feeling of being by the seaside. I think it worked. When I was walking along the pier, like, it gave me that feeling, like, oh, I almost— you disconnected from the outside there. Yeah, the massive size of Glastonbury, like, it felt like you were in a relaxed environment. I don't know.

42:05Rob Was it like looking over a sea of Yeah, yeah, I mean, the view was amazing.

42:10Miguel Yeah, it was a different view as well. That was quite cool.

42:12Jessi I really enjoyed it. I didn't get down there till the Sunday evening at about sort of 7 o'clock, I think, right? So I think by this point all the sort of amusement stands were, you know, they weren't operational at that time, but it was still really nice to— we, we bought some kind of— they had like Glastonbury-on-Sea rock candy. Yeah, yeah, yeah, sticks of rock. So we had some, we bought some of that, and you could get like postcards, and then they had, um, candy floss stalls and various sort of— they had Punch and Judy, I think.

42:39Rob Really authentic then.

42:40Jessi Yeah, they had a Punch and Judy thing that wasn't on obviously when we got there, but we saw the, um, the stand of it. And what was in the middle, Miguel? Like the robot?

42:47Miguel There was some sort of robots. Yeah, yeah, they were just playing drums. There was a guy controlling— I don't know if it was programmed or— I don't know, it wasn't quite clear. But yeah, I, I was watching that for a few, few minutes.

42:58Jessi Yeah, that was quite cool as well. I really, really enjoyed it. Like, I, I think it's It was much more impressive than I thought it was going to be. Definitely. I really wanted to steal one of the deck chairs. They had like Glastonbury on Sea printed deck chairs.

43:10Rob Oh, proper ones.

43:11Jessi Yeah, yeah, they're amazing.

43:12Miguel It was a fun environment. Yeah. But yeah, we need to see what they're gonna— there's already some news what's happening next time.

43:19Jessi Oh yeah, Eavis has said that— well, I think he said in an interview that maybe he's gonna— yeah, hinted that he's hoping to do more pre-pitched tents around that area and they'll all be blue and white so they look like the sea, which sounds lovely. I'd be well up for that.

43:32Miguel Because— and also, I don't know if I was gonna add maybe this, the center stage would be like a bandstand because what I felt this year is I went there and I, I was amazed by it and I enjoyed my time there, but I didn't feel the need to go back again during the same year, during the same festival. Yeah, so I'm curious to see as well if they have some plans for 2020.

43:51Jessi Yeah, like a bandstand or like an open mic stand. How cool would that be? Just rock up and play like a little— yeah, that would be really cool. So Glastonbury, yeah, I really enjoyed it. but let's see what they've got planned for 2020.

44:01Rob Excellent.

44:02Jessi And how about Icon? So we've already put out a picture of this on our Instagram because I know that Jan like really liked it. So did you guys spend much time there, Miguel?

44:11Miguel When I was showing the site around to my friends, so the first time I saw Icon was daytime and it looked amazing at daytime. Like, this is nice, this stage is beautiful. But the first time I went there during the evening, yes, I was mind-blown.

44:26Jessi Yeah, the projections.

44:28Miguel Oh yeah, it was just a visual spectacular, just the lights and everything. But this was still one of the early nights, so I went there to see, okay, this is, this is great. But it was only, I think, Saturday or Friday evening that then I went there late hours, and then they were like full force. And then I was in the middle of the field and the surrounding sound system and these projections, and it wasn't repeating. I think I was there for almost 2 hours And again, I was expecting to maybe— is this something on loop? Is there an end here? But it kept going. And like, how many hours they have programmed of—

45:03Jessi Oh, what, of the projections?

45:04Miguel Yeah, whatever. The whole thing was— do the guy who's playing there right now, is he part of it? When this— I don't know exactly how the whole—

45:12Jessi I would think they're live projections, so he might have been controlling it.

45:15Miguel That's what I'm saying. I don't know how much they had planned, or they just had something who was playing and the projections and then whoever was playing in terms of DJ, are they connected, are they not? I don't know. I just know that I was there for 2 hours, like nothing— it didn't repeat it yet. It just kept going and changing and I started getting immersed. I don't know. It was great.

45:37Rob Yeah, great stage. At least 2 nights I went there specifically and on another night I ended up going back there. I just loved it. So for me, the Southeast Corner this year was incredibly busy, busier than I think I have— I expected it or, or have ever seen it. I like, you know, wandering around, it was, it was very packed. And I always almost kept finding myself doing the loop and, you know, or finding myself back at this place because it just kept drawing me in. Yeah, yeah, the music— I, I mean, I, I really enjoyed the music there along with the lights. And, and there was a few of us actually that just thought, should we just go back there? It's wicked. Um, yeah, we did.

46:14Jessi I've heard that the sort of sound you said about the surround sound, I've heard that the sound in it was amazing because it's a big open field.

46:19Miguel So there was It should be.

46:20Rob Kind of speaker towers all surrounding it.

46:23Jessi Yeah.

46:23Rob And then, then it was there at the front, so it was just— even the lights were coming from, from the back. And so, yeah. Oh, it was excellent.

46:30Jessi I didn't actually go there when it was— well, when we went, we went past it almost because we were sort of on a real mission to get to the gas tower. Um, but like, it wasn't really that busy. It was sort of— the southeast corner was just kicking off. It was just after the headliners, so we would like rush there, right? Um, and we didn't really end up going back and doing a loop, which is one of my regrets because loads of people say it was incredible. Yeah, I think it's the music that was playing there as we went through was a bit like, not really in the mood for this, let's keep going. So we didn't really go.

47:00Rob Speaking of new places, what was the new one in The Common with the, the waterfall type place?

47:06Jessi Samula.

47:07Rob Samula. Yeah, that one as well. When you're talking about lights and, and sound, that place Just, yeah, it was the other place I kept getting drawn back into. Because again, talking about it being busy, I struggled. And again, this just comes down to what time you go, how early you get there, but I just couldn't get into the temple at the times that I was there. It was just too busy. It was absolutely rammed, which is obviously a very good thing because it's very popular and it means a lot of people are having fun. Uh, it doesn't work out great for me sometimes, but you know what I mean. It doesn't work out best for me.

47:37Jessi You're gonna have to start getting to things earlier.

47:39Miguel Yes, absolutely.

47:40Rob Be more prepared. I'm good here, I'm quite happy. But yeah, that place was— that's an— I mean, yeah, that whole area just this year, I, I just, yeah, had the best time.

47:51Jessi I missed the— I'm a bit gutted I didn't go to The Common at all this year, which I'm— oh, it's one of my favorite places and I don't know why.

47:58Rob Because of your big group?

47:59Jessi Because of my big group. Yeah, yeah, I know, I know. I've made some, you know, I've, I've learned some lessons, but we'll come to that. But we spent our time, like, we spent 2 nights in, uh, the Gast House which I've heard was super difficult to get into, but we got there. So like, we, like, as I said, we missioned there.

48:15Rob Made a beeline.

48:16Jessi I was honestly leading like Pied Piper, leading these people, but I got them there. And we were in the middle and there was, we're talking about surround sound, like there was really cool. They basically, yeah, had a big kind of immersive sound, I guess, space. It was, oh yeah, it was awesome. So we were there for Bicep, which was really good. So we really enjoyed that. But yeah, I didn't do much exploring of the smaller places. in Southeast Corner this year. But so I missed out on Shangri-La. Next year, next year, definitely.

48:45Rob That looks amazing. Definitely.

48:46Jessi I was like, that's definitely up there.

48:47Miguel What it feels like is all these new stages and areas for 2019, they're gonna be maturing for the big 50. Yeah. So maybe it's no coincidence that we had the follow year last year. So they took their time to start building these new extra planning areas, and now they saw what already happened when the festival was on.

49:03Rob So I mean, which just makes 2020 It's gonna be a big one, isn't it? As the excitement goes kind of up, the anxiety steps in and the fear sets in, and we all start thinking, oh God, oh God, are we gonna get tickets?

49:17Jessi Okay, let's, let's not talk about that for a minute. No, no, no, let's talk about the, uh, like other new thing that came this year. Not about stages or anything, but obviously Glastonbury announced that they were going to be going single-use plastic free. Did you guys notice this? I know we talked a lot about this before we went. Uh, we all brought our bottles with us. But did you notice a difference at the bars or in any of the things that you bought, or was there any— you know, I thought, for example, the cutlery and plates that we used were all really good. They're all either cardboard or Vegware that I got anyway.

49:47Rob Yeah, all wooden. Massively. I mean, it was— the impact, I think, was huge. Like we mentioned briefly earlier about the water stands, there were a lot of them.

49:55Jessi Yeah, there were way more this year.

49:56Rob And I think the— it, you know, talking about the hot weather meant that they were, you know, very well used. Perhaps it seemed like there were a lot of queues. I don't necessarily think that's because there was a lack of water. I think it's because the heat meant people needed a lot of water. But it was there and they were very well signposted. I think, you know, the lack of plastic bottles all over the floor and in around the bins was noticeable.

50:19Miguel Fresh plastic sign for a walk-in.

50:21Rob Yeah, exactly. Exactly. So that was incredibly different. I did take my plate and my fork, sadly broke my fork and then lost my plate. But I, you know, I did make that effort.

50:34Jessi Yeah.

50:35Rob And a couple of people were like, oh, Brilliant, because one of the ladies I was speaking to, I just said, oh, don't worry about the fork, can I have it in here? She was like, oh, that's really good, yeah, of course, absolutely. So it was good that people were kind of encouraged by it, and I think it's something quite simple. But yeah, to be fair, by a few days in, I was back into using the stuff that's supplied. But, you know, at least I tried. Did anyone else manage to?

50:58Miguel I wasn't carrying a plate with me, but I did get the metallic pint cup from the water kiosks to use that throughout the festival together with my water bottle. But not just the plastic, I think in general the festival felt more clean throughout the days, didn't it?

51:12Jessi Wait, back up a minute. The metal pint cups were sold at the water kiosk?

51:17Miguel Yes. Yes.

51:19Jessi What? I missed out on that. Damn.

51:21Miguel Yeah, it was a fiver, and I think you can give it back.

51:23Rob Yeah, it was, it was a deposit.

51:26Jessi But I asked at the bar and the guy— and they had no idea. They were like, oh no, we sell them in this. I was like, I need to get one of the metal pint cups, and they had no idea.

51:33Rob Yeah.

51:34Jessi They were at the water kiosk.

51:35Rob I think they sold out quite quickly. Quickly. By the kind of the Sunday, there were still the bottles left, but they were—

51:41Jessi Right, I'm getting one of those next year. It did not— well, yeah.

51:43Rob And they're great because they keep the drink so cold.

51:45Miguel Yeah, yeah. I did wonder though, you mentioned the queues. So at one point, like, yeah, I was wondering, like, do people know they can use any tap on site? Because you would see people queuing at the water kiosks and maybe there was some taps next to it, and I would just go walk straight in and say, just fill my water. Why is everyone queuing?

52:02Rob Yeah, what I noticed around some of them was that The taps on the outside weren't being used because of the drips.

52:09Miguel Well, they do have small ones.

52:10Rob Yeah, so it was causing a lot of mud.

52:12Miguel On the side of the water kiosk.

52:13Jessi Yeah.

52:14Miguel But sometimes we'll have 3 or 4 taps, which was maybe behind the water kiosk.

52:20Rob Yeah, because obviously you don't fill up your big water bottles or things.

52:23Miguel So maybe it's worth saying that, guys, you can use any water tap.

52:27Jessi All the taps are drinking water, basically. It doesn't have to be one of the WaterAid kiosks.

52:31Rob I think again it comes down to the weather, people getting not necessarily caught short but thinking, God, I've just— I'd love a glass of water.

52:39Jessi Yeah.

52:39Rob So yeah, off they go, you know what I mean? Then your only choice is either to hike back to the tent. Grant, you couldn't purchase water, or you could in a, in a can, but which is just a weird— It is strange, isn't it?

52:51Jessi I'm all for it.

52:52Rob Yeah, yeah, yeah.

52:52Jessi I had one just out of desperation one day. Uh, more— no, not desperation, sorry, laziness. Laziness. Um, I bought one of those, but, um, it was just a weird sensation. Like, like cans, you're so used to being fizzy, do you know what I mean?

53:05Miguel Yeah.

53:05Jessi And to have like a still flavorless water was very weird. My brain was going, something's wrong, what's going on? But no, it tasted fine, it was all good. I was like, you know, £1.50 for a can, and that was my pure laziness from not— you know, I'd run out of my bladder in my, um, yeah, yeah, uh, water pack thing, water backpack. So I just kind of went, oh, I'll get that for now, uh, and it was, it was totally fine. I really noticed a difference, as you say, that just that plastic cups walking through, you know, when a when a stage shuts off at the end of the night.

53:32Rob Crunching, yeah.

53:33Jessi The crunch, crunch, crunch, that was all gone. Uh, and the kind of plastic, uh, bins were like never full, whereas some of the others, you know, the canned ones and the food ones sometimes were a bit full. But, and I think everybody made a con— I noticed people made more of a conscious effort to at least, you know, not put their cans on the floor from when they were watching big bands. Like, I saw people sort of stacking them or putting them in a bag to take with them at the end. And I know that there were some photos in the Daily Mail of like, oh, bins overflowing, going at Glastonbury and all it's still rubbish tip. I was like, but people have taken their rubbish and put it near a bin. Okay, granted, they might not have been able to empty it. Yeah, you know, right after a headliner because they can't get the truck through. But, you know, people have at least taken it from— when you looked at the field, like the Pyramid Field. Yeah, it was so empty.

54:21Rob There was some unfortunate misreporting, wasn't there? I mean, from my perspective and being there, it was only positives that came from the— from, from what they did. For sure, only positives. I didn't hear anybody moaning about the lack of water bottles or, or pop, you know, plastic bottles of, I don't know, Coke or fizzy drinks. No, no one was moaning it. I think it was a very, very positive step forward that was taken very well by everyone that went.

54:43Jessi So moving on from that, how good were the campsites on Monday? Like, I camp in Big Round, as you know, and that has been the one that have been the photos the last couple of years, you know, look how awful this campsite has been, just because it's one of the more popular ones. And I couldn't believe on the Monday this year the difference was amazing. It was— it felt like it was, you know, if it was more like 1 in 50 tents that were left behind. And, you know, this is me leaving at 10:30 in the morning, so it could be that people were still packing up. But big patches of green, like no big piles of rubbish. People would actually at least put their rubbish in a bag if they hadn't bothered to put the bag near the pathway or near the bins or in the recycling points, and at least bagged it up and left it in a part, you know, in a nice neat kind of pile. How was it down your end?

55:25Rob Oh, absolutely the same.

55:26Miguel Felt like it was— I, I I did leave in the afternoon, so I could see everyone packing their tents. It was, it felt like it was way better than previous years. It was really good to see.

55:36Rob From what I could see, and obviously this just goes by what I could see, there was nothing really abandoned. There were piles, like you say, piles of bin bags, just neatly piled bin bags, just so much green, almost the kind of same as when you arrive. There was, that's what you want to see, all this, you know, Just, there weren't— I couldn't really see any broken chairs, any half-discarded tents with poles sticking out everywhere. It just was like—

56:00Miguel Or even those tents where someone left literally everything behind.

56:03Rob Yeah, absolutely.

56:04Miguel Even their clothes and everything.

56:06Rob Just abandoned the whole lot.

56:07Miguel Every year I would see this group of tents, which was terrible. I didn't see any of that.

56:11Rob No, I didn't. And you know when you just think, right, we need some— we need everybody to step up now, do the right thing, and show that we can take care of this place. And you know what, everyone did.

56:20Jessi Yeah, I feel like it was much better. I mean, don't get me wrong, it wasn't perfect. Like, you know, but on the size of Glastonbury, like, it's, it's very difficult to get it to be like that, you know. There was still the odd bit of kind of litter that would, you know, I'm talking like a crisp packet that would sort of blow in the wind, and then you'd see a couple of, you know, there was— I think there was one what I would call bad campsite, you know, bad sort of group of mates who had clearly left and just left a pile of rubbish, hadn't put it in a bag. There were a couple of tents, there was like a, one of those blue air beds like flying around. So there was like one of those that were near, sort of near us, that had obviously cleared off early in the morning, went, oh, you know, screw this. But whereas a couple of years ago that would be, you know, one, one in every 10 groups were like that, you know, whereas now it was almost— I feel like they probably left really early in the morning because I feel like if they'd have left at about 9, people would have told them off, do you know what I mean?

57:12Rob Yeah, yeah.

57:12Jessi There was that kind of vibe of people Being like, do you need a bin bag? Do you want some help? Like, or you, you know, people would say to us, we are definitely coming back.

57:20Rob Can you just—

57:20Jessi yeah, I think everyone's gonna sit here. Can you just make sure that we are coming back? We're not leaving it like this. You know what I mean?

57:25Rob Yeah, yeah, absolutely. Everyone's on the ball. I think it was almost kind of a sense of pride with, with everybody saying, look, I've done my bit, I've thrown everything in the bin, look, look how much stuff I'm taking away. It's almost like, yes, look at me, I've got all this, it's coming home. Yeah, exactly. But you know, because of Because of, you know, the attention that got drawn to it a few years ago, what we should be doing anyway, all of a sudden everyone's like, yay, look at me! And that's fine because the step forward is a very, very positive one.

57:50Jessi I think having David Attenborough there helped a little bit. Yeah. Everyone was like, oh, look at lovely, you know, British hero, like pinnacle of everything we love, and look at you, you beautiful man. And then it's like, okay, we'll make you proud, David. Yeah, you make me proud, and then we'll make you proud. Exactly. I think that would— that definitely helped. Right, okay, this is me being maybe a little bit indulgent here, but do you think part of me has like this little mini bit of pride that thinks maybe 0.001% of the people that went to Glastonbury were more green and got the Leave No Trace kind of message from us? No? Is that me being really indulgent?

58:25Rob Encouraging.

58:26Jessi Do you know what I mean?

58:27Rob Yeah, hopefully.

58:28Jessi Maybe we— even if we just changed one person's life, person's mind that went, oh, I was gonna buy a £20 festival tent and leave it there, but actually, having listened to that podcast, those guys seem so— like, yeah, you never know. Maybe I'm just being super selfish. I did think about that on the way home. I was like, maybe we changed somebody's attitude. Oh, there was a lot of people. I mean, there was so much talk about it on the way up, and I think, you know, the entire, entire planet is starting— well, the entire Western planet is starting to go, okay, we do need to make a change. And it's amazing, it's been 2 years since the last Glastonbury, and, you know, the, the plastic reduction that we've seen, the laws that have come in since then that have reduced plastic. So I think it's all a big snowball, but I think if we—

59:06Rob It's going in the right direction.

59:07Jessi It's going in the right direction. If we were even like the tiny, tiniest help to that, then I'm very happy that we—

59:12Rob Absolutely. Long may it continue.

59:14Jessi Uh, we've talked about kind of our favorite, you know, bands and artists and musical moments. One of the other things, let's talk about, you know, our favorite non-music moments. For me, you know, I always say like I love all the little things that happen at Glastonbury, and one thing I tried this year that I'd never done before was power ballad yoga.

59:40Miguel All right, yeah.

59:41Jessi Um, how does that work? It's run— well, it's run by a lady that I've kind of come to know through my festival blog, and she said, oh, you've really got to come down, it'll be, it'll be really good fun. And, you know, it's on at 10 AM on the Greenpeace stage every day. And I was a bit like, God, getting ready and having to be somewhere at 10 AM, I don't know how I feel about this. Um, but some of my friends seemed really up for it, so we went. And the funny thing is that a couple of my friends had even brought a yoga mat. They brought a yoga mat down. But we get there, and I can tell you it's definitely not yoga. In fact, I think their, their tagline for it is like, asterisk, not actually yoga.

1:00:19Rob Okay.

1:00:20Jessi It's just so much fun. So, um, It's a lady called Kat, or her alter ego is Kitty Chakra. And basically they just play amazing power ballads, the likes of like Prince and, you know, um, the, the Phil Collins one and that kind of thing. And you do these kind of yoga sequences that definitely aren't yoga. So some of the moves featured are like air grab, where you raise your hand up in the air and kind of pull down, air grab.

1:00:45Rob Yes.

1:00:45Jessi There's like, you know, air guitar moments. There's a lot of lunging and stuff. And it's so funny.

1:00:51Rob I just have to add that unfortunately you guys can't see what we—

1:00:54Jessi yeah, I'm trying to like pull some of the moves out here. But yeah, so everybody, it was really packed, like for 10 AM in the morning, it was amazing. Obviously it's a really popular thing. And yeah, it's just so much fun. There's a lot of sort of teamwork. You sort of lunge like, um, sort of with it, like you have a friend in front of you and you kind of team lunge and then almost like thrust at each other. It was super, it was a really funny way to start the day, and I like really enjoyed it. And the other thing that I just have to give a shout out to, because of how hot it was, I don't think I would have survived Glastonbury 2019 if it wasn't for the frozen margaritas.

1:01:30Miguel Nice.

1:01:30Jessi That you had mentioned.

1:01:32Miguel Oh yeah, so were you getting at The Glades?

1:01:35Jessi Yeah, The Glades and West Holts both do them. And I think me and my friends, like, it would be the way we'd sort of go, should we meet at the frozen margarita bar? Yeah, meet you there. I think I must have had 20+ frozen margaritas every weekend because it was so hot. It was just the nicest thing.

1:01:49Miguel Yeah.

1:01:49Jessi Although the machines— I think clearly everybody loved it as much as me because the machines, you had to go in the morning because by the afternoon they'd either sold out or the machines were just not coping, couldn't handle with the number of people, the number of, um, ones they were making.

1:02:02Miguel But I'm thirsty right now.

1:02:03Jessi Yeah, you just made me thirsty. Do you guys have any, like, you know, non-music kind of things Anything that you did this year that you really enjoyed? Miguel, anything? Any moments that stand out for you?

1:02:13Miguel Well, yeah, I don't know if you— if when you say no music you're just thinking of different types of acts, but for me, another highlight for this year— I think you feel maybe I was complaining that I was organizing a big group this year of newbies, and that brought some problems.

1:02:27Jessi Challenges. Challenges. Challenges.

1:02:28Miguel Challenges is better. But it also brought so many great, great moments, like being at the top of the hill in the park The Park and a friend looks at you and says, wow, I get it now, Miguel. Yeah, I understand.

1:02:39Jessi You understand.

1:02:40Miguel Or another friend sending you a WhatsApp audio during the John Hopkins set to let you know that he's going to come with you to this festival every year now. So for me, I have all this because I think we— I told many stories I shared with strangers in previous years at Glastonbury, so it was very good to shared stories with friends this year.

1:03:02Jessi Yeah, I actually— I had quite a few newbies this year, and I had the same, like, loads of them. We can talk about Glastonbury as much as you— yeah, as you can tell, we can talk about it a lot, but you don't get it until you've been. It's just—

1:03:14Rob there's—

1:03:14Jessi you can't describe it as much as we try. And I had friends the same. They were sort of like, oh yeah, I'd seen it on the TV, I didn't really get it. But you go there and it's not what you see on the BBC, it's everything else.

1:03:24Miguel Yeah.

1:03:24Jessi And loads of them said to me, like, right, I I fully understand your obsession now. I get it now.

1:03:29Miguel And, uh, the majority of them are going to be trying tickets now in October, and now they are, well, not experts, but they've been there, they can go around.

1:03:40Rob If we keep recruiting, then eventually everyone, yeah, will want to be there.

1:03:44Jessi How about you, Rob?

1:03:45Rob Well, you see, this would have been a great question to ask me in 2017 because that was the year I almost did no music and explored absolutely everything But, you know, unfortunately this year I've gone the other way. So where one of the highlights for me this year was actually how much of the music I got to enjoy.

1:04:01Jessi Mm-hmm.

1:04:02Rob So not saying like any of my specific highlights, but actually to enjoy the amount of music and the variation of music and just actually to kind of get back in touch with my appreciation for such a massive eclectic mix of genres.

1:04:16Jessi Mm-hmm.

1:04:17Rob Yeah, I actually came away from this festival really like back in touch with music. And since then I've started listening to a lot more music. I've been down downloading a lot more music. I've been like on Spotify 23/7 because I do have to sleep a little bit. Um, so yeah, I'm starting to really explore a lot more of my musical interests from just doing it this year the way I did. So it doesn't answer your question, but actually it's, it's my answer.

1:04:43Jessi No, that works. You can say, you know, you get what I mean though.

1:04:45Rob Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:04:47Jessi Uh, I think, you know, you've done it differently. Mine has always been sort of, you know, what bands am I going to see today first and then exploring in the, in between.

1:04:56Rob Yeah.

1:04:56Jessi Um, but I think this time it sounds like you were sort of exploring, but you stopped to listen to things that you went, this sounds great, let's check this out.

1:05:02Rob Yeah, absolutely. And this is what maybe when we talk about newbies and why we do this podcast is trying to get the most you can out of one festival. Actually, you know, having been to 6 or 7 or however many we've all been to, You don't have to do it the same each year. Sometimes you can do it a little bit differently, always in the hope that we're going to get to do it a little bit differently again the next year. But, you know, because we intend to just basically go forever, it doesn't matter if you don't do everything.

1:05:28Miguel This reminds me of one of my friends who, who been there for the first time. She told me it took, it took her a while to process everything. Yeah. But then one day she texts me like, uh, I'm very happy I lived it, but I almost sad that now I will depend on it.

1:05:44Jessi Yeah.

1:05:44Miguel So I think this is another way of saying that she got the the bug.

1:05:47Jessi Yeah, truly. Yeah, definitely got the bug.

1:05:50Miguel So welcome to the club.

1:05:51Rob So, but with the bug comes the blues.

1:05:54Miguel Yeah, when she texted me that she was feeling the blues, but then she summarized it. Yeah, what I think was a really good way to put the feelings on.

1:06:03Jessi It comes the blues and also comes the stress, like, at this time of year, right? Anyway, let's not talk about that for a bit. Okay, earlier, Rob, you mentioned that, you know, what's amazing about Glastonbury is you can do a completely different festival every year. You know, you've done a very music festival this year, and last in 2017, it was much more kind of relaxed and all about the little things. Like, has anybody regret— do you have any regrets from this year, guys? I know I have quite a few things that, you know, I kind of not wish I'd done differently, but I've got some lessons for next year. Any missed opportunities or regrets, Miguel?

1:06:34Miguel Uh, well, uh, in terms of music or sets, I really regret not being— not going to, to Lizzo.

1:06:39Jessi Oh, I'm so gutted. You know, I said on the podcast I'm so looking forward to Lizzo, but I sacrificed Lizzo as well, but I wasn't sorry.

1:06:47Miguel I wasn't very familiar with her music, to be honest, but you recommended, and I, I listened to a few songs before the festival. But then coming back home, I started listening more, and then I saw the set. Like, oh my God, I should have been there.

1:06:58Jessi Yeah, she looked incredible, didn't she? Like, with a purple bodysuit. Oh my God, I watched that. I think that's the set I watched back most having got home. Yeah, I'm so gutted about it. Mine was because, you know, I mentioned we all went to Kylie. It was kind of one of those, do I go to Lizzo and like possibly not— I knew that Kylie was going to be, you know, so busy. So either do I do Lizzo and then potentially not be able to meet my friends for Kylie? And I went, no, no, I'll go to Kylie. And part of me thinks that we had the flag, I could have found them, do you know what I mean? But anyway, it's been done now. Any others?

1:07:32Miguel There's also— there's, uh, a few things I still haven't done at Glastonbury in all these years, and I thought, oh, this year I'll make the point and go and do it. So, but didn't happen. So I still haven't been inside the Rabbit Hole, and I, I still haven't been to the NYC Download.

1:07:48Jessi That's one of my favorite late-night venues.

1:07:51Miguel Have you— we went there this year?

1:07:52Jessi Uh, no, we got in the queue.

1:07:54Rob Maybe.

1:07:57Jessi No, we got in the queue this year, but that was, I think, the Wednesday night we actually went. That's— we normally go there on Wednesday night.

1:08:03Miguel Yeah.

1:08:04Jessi But, um, we got in the queue and it didn't move for ages, and a few of my friends stayed and went in, but I think that was me trying to be sensible. It was about 2, 3 in the morning and I went, you know what, I think I'm gonna call it tonight. But, um, I thought— I assumed we'd go back again and we didn't. So—

1:08:17Miguel And what about you, Rob? Regrets, missed opportunities, apart from Annie-Marie?

1:08:22Jessi Not really.

1:08:24Miguel Taking your proposal seriously.

1:08:27Rob That's right, you're gonna get a restraining order against me.

1:08:32Miguel No, no. Um, we'll be amazed if this story really gets to her somehow.

1:08:36Rob Yeah. So I think really I didn't have that many kind of moments where I was frustrated or regret is such a negative— see, it makes me feel negative because it's difficult. Yeah, yeah, yeah. But so for me, I had— right, so I talked about this a lot in one of our episodes and how excited I was about the Saturday and how I was unsure which way I was going to go. Well, as it turned out, I didn't— I wasn't able to go with either and Um, and that irritated me for a bit. And do you know what I mean? I— it kind of sent my night on a potentially different direction because I, because I, I had these 2 places I wanted to be and I wasn't at either of them. It put me in a little bit of a bad mood. And while I— while we talked about, um, you know, you shouldn't— you try not to try and stick to too much because it doesn't always go that way.

1:09:25Jessi Yeah.

1:09:25Rob Uh, and it's easy to say that. At that time, I just got a bit frustrated. You know what, I— looking back, I think, do you know what, should have just accepted it, gone and found something to do. And I just had a little bit of a lull in my Saturday night. And for me, that's one of the main ones, you know, being right in the middle. And I, looking back, having watched, I should have gone to at least maybe see The Killers. I didn't see any of the headliners.

1:09:44Miguel Hmm.

1:09:45Rob Stormzy's not my kind of music. And I don't, I think outside of maybe the one song, I don't know The Cure, but The Killers, like you, Jessi, I reckon I could probably sing along to most of it. So I should have just gone, you know, know what, I'm gonna go. Yeah, so that's, that's, that would be my regret, having that happen to me on a Saturday and not going in and just giving in and seeing the Killers.

1:10:04Miguel But interesting that you, you mentioned some of, of those feelings, because to open up a bit, I felt like I was, I was overwhelmed by Glastonbury again this year. Like, I felt like, oh no, as I said, I didn't went to the Rabbit Hole, I didn't went to the NYC Download, but I also, I had something like, oh no, I need to do this, I haven't been this, that And after going all these years, you thought you shielded yourself against this thought of feelings, the pressure. And I don't know, maybe I think it's a combination that is an edition after a fallow year.

1:10:36Rob Yeah.

1:10:36Miguel And also maybe the heat. As I said already in this episode, I was adapting and changing my plans and having to experience Glastonbury in a different way. I think this year I was having to learn again how to do it, and I was getting stressed sometimes, like, and angry. And I walked all the way to the Avalon. And then I didn't bother to go inside the tent because it was already packed and it's too hot. And then, oh, and then I started missing this, I'm missing that. So it was weird to have these feelings again, which I thought I was—

1:11:04Rob Past that.

1:11:05Miguel Past that.

1:11:05Rob Yeah. Do you think sometimes maybe that you can have too many kind of traditions or rituals, these things that you feel like you have to do, and then if you don't do them, you get a bit annoyed? But then also maybe sticking to it so like rigidly means that you potentially aren't free to, you know, to enjoy it in that kind of way. Kind of, you know, having these rituals and traditions in some ways is a good thing. And, you know, things we look forward to and we like to just kind of make our regular stamp doing that thing. It's like a tick, but they stop you kind of enjoying the festival in a way where things just happen organically, you know. A festival that big and with so much going on, you need to still be able to, you know, let it just go, which is what I wish I'd done on that Saturday.

1:11:46Miguel But that's the thing. And we absolutely, we say this all the time, don't make plans or plan lightly, let it flow. We always say that, we say that the whole series.

1:11:54Rob Do you know what, maybe I should have just listened to our episode.

1:11:56Miguel But that's what I'm trying to get at. For some reason this year I was a victim of that. And to be honest, on the coach back to London, I had all these thoughts and feelings in my head. And I feel like this year was sort of like a turning point for me at Glastonbury.

1:12:13Rob Maybe we put too much pressure on ourselves.

1:12:14Jessi You know what, I fully agree. I feel like this year was a turning point for me as well. Don't get me wrong, I love my big group, um, but I think next year— I think this year I was so set on everybody being together and like, you know, enjoying the time together, but it meant that, you know, I, I still have to keep reminding myself that this year was probably my second best ever Glastonbury. 2013 still is the one to beat, but I still think this was, you know, next best ever Glastonbury. I had the most incredible time. But I again didn't listen to any of my own advice that we talked about, um, and I just— yeah, I needed to go off on my own sometimes, or I needed to just like grab one of my friends and go, hey, should we just go in that bit over there? Should we go explore for a minute and come back? And I definitely didn't do that, you know. My regret, I would say, is that we had 4 big-ish nights. What I mean is, you know, we, we went out after the headliner and we were out till at least kind of 3-ish. And of those 4 nights, we did 2 nights in the Gas Tower at Shangri-La, and both of those we sort of went to the Truth Stage afterwards. And then the other 2 nights we were at Arcadia. I didn't set foot in the Dance Village— or Silver Hayes, sorry.

1:13:22Miguel Yeah.

1:13:22Jessi I didn't even go— I didn't even walk through it once. I didn't go to John Peel. I didn't go to the Woods. I didn't see Cineramageddon. Like, there are loads of places I didn't see, and there were loads of things that I wanted to do. Again, we talked about going up to the sign. I didn't do that.

1:13:38Rob We didn't go up the tower.

1:13:41Jessi Um, we, we, you know, just to fill you guys in, uh, listening to this, so we met up on the Wednesday. We might— we've mentioned it, but we met up on the Wednesday at like 5 in the afternoon, and we met up at the Ribbon Tower, took some photos, you know, said how you doing, like talked to each other and, you know, learned about our arrivals and stuff and had a really nice time. And we were supposed to then walk up to the sign, but it was so boiling.

1:14:02Rob Yeah.

1:14:03Jessi And it was so packed that we just didn't bother.

1:14:05Rob And I think we're a little bit forgot. I know. Yeah.

1:14:09Jessi know, I didn't go up there again another time. So I think for me, I, I— my regret— I don't want to call it a regret, let's call it a lesson. The lesson I learned is next year I need to be more independent, uh, and think about what do I want to do right now. Like, the phone signal was so much better this year.

1:14:28Rob Yeah.

1:14:28Jessi So, you know, I, I think I was so like worried about losing people or whatever, but I can always find them, do you know what I mean? It's not like, you know, it might be a sort of half an hour delay, but I could go off and go to the Theatre and Circus Fields for a bit, watch some circus out there. Or, you know, I said I didn't go to The Common, I didn't go, and that's one of my favorite areas. We, when we went to the Southeast Corner, we pretty much stayed in Shangri-La and didn't move. Like, normally on a Southeast Corner night, you know, agree with me, you move around a bit, you go to a couple of different venues, you see all the small spaces. We didn't really do that. We picked a spot and we stayed there. So yeah, I— don't get me wrong, I had those same feelings on the way home from Glastonbury. And it's kind of like, it's the blues, I know it's the blues. As I said, I had to keep telling myself, I had a good time, I had a good time. And I did, I did.

1:15:10Miguel I don't want to start a therapy session here.

1:15:12Jessi Yeah, yeah, yeah.

1:15:14Miguel But when I was on the coach and having all these big thoughts, what happened, what happened? Because already on the coach I was feeling something was missing in a different way. It was different kind of blues. And then my conclusion, what my summary of my feelings was, this was probably one of my best Glastonburys as well. Yeah, but I wasn't my best self at Glastonbury.

1:15:33Jessi Yeah, that's such a good way to describe it.

1:15:35Miguel Yeah, I find myself thinking about my relationship with this festival these last years like it was a proper relationship with a person. I've been thinking what I've been doing.

1:15:46Jessi You're not wrong.

1:15:47Miguel I'm saying it's a turning point.

1:15:48Jessi Yeah, exactly.

1:15:49Miguel Big feelings, putting all the big feelings out there.

1:15:54Jessi Let's be honest, guys, we have to, you know, all I'll also summarize this in a way that the heat really didn't help. Like, I think that, I think that was another thing. I felt like I didn't do enough in the day. Like, I could have gone and explored the woods, I could have gone and done all these things, but I spent a lot of my day too tired or too hot to be able to move around and really, you know, explore as much, you know, to walk as much as I would have done. So, you know, that's, that's one of my excuses. No, but that's, that's—

1:16:20Miguel I'm using the excuse and following And finally, yeah, as we already mentioned, the fact that we've just been to— well, just been to Glastonbury, but we have the sale already and we're already thinking 2020. It just keeps me going. It keeps the relationship alive.

1:16:36Rob We have to remember the underlying factor is that how much we love it, how excited we get. All the rest is all part of the fact. Yeah.

1:16:44Jessi And, you know, we go— we hopefully go as many years as we can, you know what I mean? There's always next year to try something different, you know what I mean?

1:16:51Miguel And knowing that now we're have, what, at least 5 or 6 years straight of festival.

1:16:55Rob Yes, yeah, that's it. Positivity.

1:16:59Jessi Yeah, and I feel like if I don't get tickets, I will still be there because I'll work it. I'll find a way. I will be there. So, and if I work again, I'll see a completely different experience. Exactly, exactly. There's much that we can explore. And we can't be doing this episode without discussing ticket day. I know it's kind of come up a couple of times already.

1:17:26Rob Yeah, we keep shooing it to the side, don't we?

1:17:29Jessi I thought we'd finish on this as just, you know, a little bit of insight as to what goes on in our houses on ticket day. I don't want to dwell on it too much because it is very stressful, as everybody knows. But do we have any kind of— do you guys have a bit of a strategy that you go in with this? Like, do you set up, you know, what's your workspace look like? Do you do it the night before? Like, what do we go with?

1:17:50Miguel Well, it's the big question, isn't it? Any ticket advice? Any ticket buying? How do I get to Glastonbury?

1:17:57Jessi And how many times have we all been asked that?

1:17:59Rob Yeah.

1:18:00Jessi How do I get a Glastonbury ticket? But we're not going to give that away.

1:18:03Rob No, no, there isn't.

1:18:03Jessi There isn't a way to.

1:18:04Miguel I mean, I feel like a few years ago there used to be some little strategies or something more on the technical aspects of how you try to buy tickets. But these days, more than ever, it became like a lot— proper lottery, I think.

1:18:16Jessi Yeah.

1:18:17Miguel And the advantage really is on numbers. There's 6— you can buy 6 tickets if you get to the booking page. So you group with another 5, 5 of you, the 6 of you will be trying. And another common question is, should I use more than one device? Should I keep refreshing the page? That's the type of questions he Well, the official answer is you should have just one tab open. That's what Glastonbury recommends. So let's say that first.

1:18:46Rob Yeah.

1:18:46Miguel But saying that, I think one common mistake people do then when they think numbers, everyone gets together at the same house.

1:18:53Jessi Yeah.

1:18:54Miguel And I think that's a big mistake because that means you're going to be using the same— probably going to be using the same Wi-Fi or broadband, and that means you're using the same IP address. IP address, so the website might see you as the same person, and there's no word what's in play, but maybe you might end up being blocked in some sort of queue system. This is just speculation.

1:19:14Rob Yeah.

1:19:14Miguel So I would say more important than more devices is actually more different connections. So if you have a mobile, you can do a hotspot. Don't get together, stay in your own house and communicate through message during the buying process. Have everyone's details ready to copy and paste if you're on your computer. print out next to you, have credit card details ready, make sure you have enough balance. And what else?

1:19:42Jessi Cross your fingers. Cross your fingers.

1:19:45Miguel So in a way, this is get organized, wake up on time, and pray for the ticket gods.

1:19:51Rob Yeah, absolutely. You've covered nearly everything there. Definitely wake up on time, get ready early is, is another one.

1:19:57Jessi Could I pause you there? I'm gonna have a little mini story. Like, in 2011, I went out the night before and I said— this is when I was at university— and I said to everybody, I was like, I'm going home at midnight because Glastonbury tickets come out tomorrow. I'm going home at midnight. Lo and behold, I did not go home at midnight. I do not remember the rest of my evening. I must have got home about 4 AM. I woke up at 11 AM, 2 hours after the tickets had gone on sale. Honestly, I had that moment of lying in bed, like, blissful, sort of like, oh, I don't feel that hungover. This is very odd. Looks like it's a nice day outside. What am I gonna do today? Maybe I'll watch some TV. And then I went—

1:20:28Rob Ah!

1:20:29Jessi I actually like got out of bed, I started crying instantly. I almost threw my laptop out the window. I was just devastated. Like, I've missed it, what have I done? I logged on and noticed that they were still going. I think that year they had server issues or something. And this is how like now I'm just ever grateful to Twisto, because the first— one of the first things I did when I couldn't get anywhere near it was I went on Twitter and went, guys, I've just had the worst morning, could somebody help me? Uh, and yeah, one of the Twisto guys called me and got it, got me through. But yes, again, wake up on time because honestly, it's not worth it. I've never been more stressed. Honestly, that was the most like— I, I've— the range of emotions I went through in an hour.

1:21:06Rob You will not get a 2-hour window now. No, no, no, no, no. You'd be lucky. Yeah, lucky to get half an hour.

1:21:11Jessi If that happened now, I absolutely missed it. You'd be gone.

1:21:13Rob You'd be done.

1:21:13Miguel I absolutely do not go out.

1:21:15Jessi No, no, I've learned my lesson is what I'm saying. But sorry, carry on.

1:21:19Rob No, no, it's because I think you've covered most of the points. But again, so preparation, being prepared and being organized, that's the blanket kind of Brackets, everything in it. Things you can do, like, so you talk about having 6 people. Best thing to do is make sure each of you can afford to pay all 6 deposits and then you work it out afterwards. Don't start trying to fiddle about with things like that.

1:21:41Jessi Yeah.

1:21:41Rob Personally, I write my codes down rather than have them on the computer because my eyes need to be able to separate them. So I write in big writing because it's easier when it comes to typing it out because you've got to make sure your postcodes are right. Double-check your registrations. I've double-checked mine because I've had to change my postcode. So I've been went on, changed it, no problems at all. When you just change your postcode, it does it instantly. When you change your photograph, it takes a few days for them to authorise it. So again, make sure that your registration details are ready. One time in previous years, in my— on the spreadsheet, my postcode was wrong.

1:22:14Jessi The way the website works is that it, you know, every time you press a button, there's a chance you could get kicked off the page.

1:22:20Rob Yes.

1:22:20Jessi So you have to be really careful and put everything in, you know, as Rob said, like type it in carefully. Don't rush when you're on the page, like calmly, slowly pop it in. But if one person's put their postcode wrong or the registration is missing a number, when you press go to the next page, it will say— it'll come up with red writing saying this person is wrong or something. You then have to fix that problem, and then you have less, you know, you press again, you might have got booted off.

1:22:43Rob And then talking about the groups, if you are going to commit to being in a group of 6, don't do that Jack thing where you go and like have your sister trying to get your, your ticket alone, because if your ticket gets bought, it can conflict and no one knows that, and then the rest of the group gets through and puts all 6 down and it will come up and it just, it won't go through. It won't just—

1:23:01Jessi so yeah, we've had that as well. Yeah, honestly, you like— that is the quickest way to lose friends. Exactly.

1:23:06Miguel If you join a group, it's not a way to get into Glastonbury without making any effort.

1:23:11Jessi Commit to that group.

1:23:12Rob Commit.

1:23:12Miguel Join efforts. Again, numbers.

1:23:14Jessi Yeah. And if you get through, you have to put through those, all of those those people through as well. So if you get through, you don't just go, oh, actually I only really care about me and my mate. I'm in a group with 3 other people and I don't really know them that well, not really that bothered. Like, then that means if they get through, you're just causing— if you're in a group, you're in a group, end of story.

1:23:29Rob And it's gonna, like, it does increase your chances, so you just have to be respectful to the other people. Um, if you are going to have, like I have, anyone I know that is willing to helps me, even if they're not going. Yeah, they have all 6 of codes. And I will— and they, because they're my friends, they will have my bank details available so that they can just— I'm not saying share your bank details with everybody, quite the opposite. Um, you can do, you know, bank transfers and things like that afterwards. But, you know, just make sure all the details, as willing— as much as you're willing. So if my, if my mum's helping from home, or my dad, they've got all the details they need of all 6, not just me, all 6. And that, that's what you commit to.

1:24:09Miguel So yeah, I prepare all my devices during the week. I, I start with a clean browser. Yes, maybe, maybe If you have this laptop that you use every day to browse every single website on the internet, maybe have extensions installed. I do a clean installation of browsers.

1:24:25Rob Yeah? Oh wow, excellent.

1:24:27Jessi Wipe everything.

1:24:28Rob Close everything down.

1:24:30Miguel Disconnect all the devices from your network. If you have a smart TV or anything like that, disconnect them. This is in terms of technical tips maybe, or what else can I do?

1:24:41Rob Again, I only have one window per device and one device per Wi-Fi connection, so I just really just use my phone and my laptop.

1:24:48Jessi See, I have phone, I then have my work phone which is on a completely different 4G, then I have, uh, an iPad that I connect to my work phone, so I guess that's still the same IP, but part of me is like, yeah, it's the next one. Um, my laptop is on my Wi-Fi.

1:25:03Rob Yeah, I go like, because I, again, conspiracies and theories. Yeah, one thing you will always find, anybody that doesn't get a Glastonbury ticket will hate the system and think it's all corrupt and wrong. Everyone that gets a Glastonbury ticket will be over the moon and super happy and want to, want to tell the whole world about it.

1:25:19Miguel What, what I do, so I try to get the most number of connections, different connections that I can, and then I mix strategies. So in one device I go hard, like refresh, refresh, refresh, refresh. The other one I just let the website queue do its thing. The other one maybe I go midway.

1:25:34Rob Have you ever Yeah, been so furiously refreshing.

1:25:39Jessi Oh, that you've gone past it.

1:25:41Rob Refreshed the page.

1:25:43Jessi Yeah.

1:25:43Rob Have you ever done it? No, no, no, I haven't.

1:25:46Jessi I've done it, but the page stays.

1:25:48Miguel Yeah, I feel like—

1:25:49Jessi I've done that recently and the page stays.

1:25:50Miguel Yeah, I feel like, for what my previous experience, whatever queue system they're using, when they let you in, even if you refresh, you wouldn't go back to the—

1:25:58Jessi Yeah, I think that they've done that. That's more of a recent thing.

1:26:01Rob Okay.

1:26:02Jessi But I tell you what, I tell you what, the most stressful thing, Okay, so a couple of years ago, my friend got through on her old iPhone 4 and then had to like type in on this tiny thing. She was like, oh my God. Oh, the stress. Honestly, we were— I, I was like, you're in! She was with me. She was sort of— I was like over her shoulder like, do it right, Katie! She was like, just, just leave me alone. I was gonna swear, but yeah, that's exactly what she said. It's an F off, basically. Leave me alone. But I was just like really tense behind her. She was like, you can help me by reading out the numbers, you know. I was like, oh yeah, okay.

1:26:35Rob Yeah.

1:26:36Jessi In summary, it's very stressful, but you can try and be as organized as you want. But as you said, you know, Miguel's had some good sort of tech tips there for you. Um, but yeah, just try and— one, uh, tab per browser, one browser per device. Get organized. Don't have everybody in one house. That's a really good tip because we used to do that. I used to invite people around for party, like, yeah, a ticket party. Yeah, yeah, right, everybody in, I'll provide the pizza.

1:26:59Miguel But still now I see maybe on social media, on Twitter, people posting and just going, no, no, no, no, no.

1:27:04Rob Do you know what my tip's gonna be? Start saving up your spiritual karma. Start being nice. Yeah, that's it. Start being nice to people.

1:27:11Jessi I absolutely love that. Just be nice to people, you know, like hold the door open for somebody, you know, somebody's 10p short for their coffee tomorrow morning in the queue, that kind of thing. Just— yeah, exactly. That's— I love that.

1:27:22Rob There you go.

1:27:23Jessi Let's end on that. That's beautiful. But I did want to say, like, we're going past the tips, um, do you guys have like a— any sort of like coping mechanism? Do you have anything in place? Like, as an example, right, so me and my friends— so I do have one friend that still comes to my house every time just because it's a bit of a tradition, but we still try and use different connections and things. But we always book brunch for afterwards, so— because obviously it's so early in the morning, we always book a brunch nearby and we go, right, say, okay, we're gonna have a glass of champagne with our brunch, and it's either a celebratory one or a commiseratory one. Yeah, commiseratory, is that the right—

1:27:56Rob Yeah, well, it works.

1:27:57Jessi Um, but, uh, so far, touch wood, uh, it's all been good. Always been good. We've always managed to get tickets. But that's our kind of like— we either drown our sorrows for us today starting with the champagne at breakfast, uh, or we go and celebrate.

1:28:12Rob So I've got We have a family— not Facebook, what do you call it— WhatsApp group. Um, so as soon as the, uh, decision has been made either way, I text the family group so they know what kind of day it's going to be. They know what to expect.

1:28:27Miguel Well, for someone with a lot of rituals at the festival, I don't, I don't have nothing specific. But of course, if we are successful, we always go, wow, let's, let's do it.

1:28:36Rob Yeah.

1:28:36Miguel And which is then is great because potentially you're going for a drink on 10 in the morning, 11 in the morning on Sunday.

1:28:42Rob I know, I noticed none of us said take a picture of the confirmation screen.

1:28:45Miguel Oh yeah, oh yeah.

1:28:47Rob Do you do that?

1:28:47Miguel No.

1:28:48Rob Very important.

1:28:48Jessi Post it.

1:28:49Miguel Very important. No, I know, not to post it on social media, but just to save, log, like take it to court.

1:28:55Jessi Okay, so once I say, Miguel, I bought tickets for us, show me the confirmation.

1:29:00Rob I'm not gonna stop. I need proof.

1:29:02Jessi Yeah, that's what I said. Like, yeah, we only take screenshots screenshots, like, to kind of prove. So you can imagine in our, like, document slash syndicate, is sort of called, of maybe like 9 groups of 6, you can imagine the chaos of people going like, oh, we've got through, blah blah blah. And I'm like, I don't— you know, we will keep trying for you unless I see a screenshot of, like, Team 2.

1:29:22Rob I mean, if we're all perfectly honest, no one ever really relaxes until the email.

1:29:26Jessi No, no, no. One year it took like 8 hours. Like my nails were digging into the sofa.

1:29:34Miguel But Jessi, what you just mentioned, I don't think we even talked about that, that you can then become even bigger numbers if you join together with another group of 6.

1:29:41Jessi Oh, I guess I should explain that. That's me saying like we're not going to talk about any more tips. So yeah, that's how my big group do it, um, is that I don't think it's the case anymore, but it used to be that once you'd got through to the page once and got tickets, you had— it felt like you had a higher Likelihood if you carried on refreshing past the confirmation screen.

1:30:02Miguel Yeah, I think it was last year.

1:30:03Jessi That you would, you would get through again. But you're right, I think last year we noticed that it wasn't quite the same as that. But anyway, the point is, is that as Miguel said, so there'll be like 6 people per team. So each— everybody in each team of 6, they try first for their own team.

1:30:19Miguel Yeah.

1:30:19Jessi And then once that team has tickets, they then— all 6 people have to keep trying for the other teams, uh, and then if they get through, they put all the numbers in. And if they get to the payment point, in my group it works that they will call through and get the payment details on the phone for the other teams. Like, within each team they'll pay for themselves, but yeah, when they get through for another person, they then type it in on the phone. So it's, it's way added stress, but it does mean that you have, you know, there's power in numbers.

1:30:47Miguel The effort grows exponentially. It's like, as soon as the first group goes in, it means the second group now has has 12 people trying for them.

1:30:53Jessi Yeah, exactly.

1:30:54Miguel The third group will have 18 people trying for them, and so forth.

1:30:57Jessi Yeah, so numbers, that's the strategy, you know. It's, it's— if you have that many friends, great, uh, or if you hear of one of these groups going, um, it's, it's— I will tell you, I've been doing this for years, it's very difficult to organize.

1:31:09Miguel Very stressful.

1:31:10Jessi Very stressful.

1:31:11Miguel You have to be organized.

1:31:12Jessi You have to be organized. You can only imagine what the kind of Facebook chat group that we have going on the day is like. I get so angry with people.

1:31:20Miguel I think maybe that's my new coping mechanism.

1:31:23Rob Yeah, I'm gonna have to do it.

1:31:24Miguel Count on them.

1:31:25Rob Like, I'm gonna have to do a shout out.

1:31:26Miguel You need to follow these deadlines.

1:31:27Jessi Yeah, honestly, I have a list of rules, my lord. Um, yes, so that's my— that's kind of the way we do it. And, uh, it's not easy, but it does increase your chances. But, but only because, as Miguel said, the, the number of people trying for each team, as each team goes through, gets bigger and bigger.

1:31:44Miguel And this, this year is going to be record.

1:31:46Jessi Oh God, it's gonna be so difficult this year.

1:31:48Rob Every year is hard. Every year is hard, guys. I mean, I'm gonna do a shout out quickly to my, uh, my friend who's like the golden goose for getting tickets, gets my ticket every year. I'm not going to tell you who it is because they might steal her away, but just a quick shout out.

1:32:04Jessi No, well, shout out to Laura anyway. Right guys, we're coming up to the end of the episode. Um, it's— I think this is going to be a long one. Yeah, yeah, it feels like it's been a big one.

1:32:25Rob Feels like we've been here ages. Yeah, but you know, we're catching up, guys. We haven't seen each other in so long.

1:32:31Miguel Well, we actually haven't seen each other since—

1:32:32Jessi no, that's true. Yeah.

1:32:36Miguel We've been laughing.

1:32:37Jessi Yeah, so, but I wanted to finish this episode just before we, you know, say our goodbyes. I actually just wanted to tell a really nice story of somebody that we know, um, and it's kind of a Glastonbury magic story. We mentioned this a lot, and I just think it's super cute and just like the most lovely story. So, uh, one of our friends called Stephen, uh, he met a girl at Glastonbury 2017. I think he literally sat down next to her in the Common or something he said. So they spent the rest of the festival together, had a really good time, and then basically started dating after this. So they will have been together, well, over 2 years now. But they had a baby together, I think it was early this year or end of 2018. And then this year, when they returned back to Glastonbury in 2019, Stephen proposed to his lovely girlfriend whose name escapes me, which is awful. But he proposed to her on the— at the Pyramid Field. And it's just the cutest thing. So now they're getting married. So 2 years after they met at Glastonbury. Yeah, I just think it's the most wonderful, heartwarming story. It gives me hope.

1:33:38Rob They had their baby with them, didn't they?

1:33:41Jessi Yeah, yeah.

1:33:41Rob Because I saw, I saw a picture. It was either Instagram or Facebook, I'm sure. And it was in front of the Pyramid Stage, probably. It was early on. So it was, it was before there were any acts. And it said, you know, this is— we're gonna have to take this picture, gonna take this picture every time we come back. And as the baby grows older, it's gonna get bigger. And they're gonna do the same picture.

1:34:02Jessi But yeah, so that was just one little story I wanted to tell. So I see you and love you. We love your story. Um, and yeah, I guess that's it, guys. So this was really fun. It was really good.

1:34:12Rob It's great to be back.

1:34:13Jessi It's great to be back in the studio.

1:34:16Miguel One day, one day.

1:34:19Rob Yeah, exactly.

1:34:20Jessi One day we'll have a real studio. Um, but yeah, anyway, really, really good, and we will be back soon. Um, we'd love to hear about your Glastonbury Glastonbury as well. You know, as, as you guys know, if you've listened to this before, we love to hear about your opinions. We're really— well, we haven't been that active on social recently, I'll be honest, that's my fault. Um, but we will be from now on.

1:34:40Rob Um, gonna get back into it.

1:34:41Jessi Gonna get back into it.

1:34:42Miguel Yeah, we've just, you know, stories.

1:34:44Rob You can send us pictures, especially, especially if you've got something that we talked about in one of our previous episodes that really helped you out. We'd love to hear about it.

1:34:53Jessi We're only Were any of our tips helpful at all? Was there anything that you just—

1:34:56Rob Even though we, uh, admitted that we ignored—

1:34:58Jessi Yeah, we ignored our own tips. We hope that we messed up completely. Yeah, we, we ignored our tips. But did they help you?

1:35:04Miguel The thing we're trying to say is we're still learning and we want to learn with you.

1:35:09Jessi Yeah, but yes, tell us your stories, uh, send us your pictures. We'd love to hear them. We'll retweet them, we'll chat about them next time. And, uh, yeah, we'd love to hear from you soon.

1:35:15Miguel And may the ticket gods be with you.

1:35:18Jessi Oh yes, good luck everyone. May the ticket gods be on your side.

1:35:21Rob All the best.

1:35:22Jessi And yes, good karma. Go out and be nice to the world, and hopefully the ticket gods will be nice to you.