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Beans On Toast has never missed a Glastonbury.

12 June 2022 · 1 hr 6 min · Road to 2022, episode 3

Jay, better known as Beans On Toast, on 25 years of Glastonbury: fence jumping, open mic beginnings, the gigs that went wrong and the one that made him cry.

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Glastonbury runs in the blood.

Miguel and Jessi are joined by Jay, or as he is better known, Beans On Toast, for an epic episode of festival stories. From Beans’ first Glastonbury in 1997 at the ripe young age of 16, he hasn’t missed one yet. We hear tales of fence jumping, open mic gigs, and meeting Billy Bragg.

A proper veteran of the festival who went from punter, to crew, to performer, and this year will mark 25 years since his first Glasto. We absolutely loved having you Jay, see you in the fields very soon!

Recorded in June 2022. Prices, dates and line-ups reflect the conversation at the time.

“I feel like Glastonbury kind of runs in my blood, to be honest. It's that important to me.”
Beans On Toast

In this episode Tap a time to jump there

  1. A first Glastonbury at 16

    Jay on turning up in 1997 to meet a girl, walking in without showing his ticket, and coming home a different person.

  2. The first gigs, good and bad

    How Beans On Toast was born in a late-night tent, a shaky first official booking, and the Glastonbury morning that made him change his ways.

  3. Writing songs and playing to any crowd

    His songwriting habits, trying unfinished songs on stage, a packed Greenpeace field, a gig nobody watched and his dream slot.

  4. From jumping the fence to working for a ticket

    The years of jumping in, the jobs that came after the fence went up, and why he still moves between the big stages and the small ones.

  5. Listener Tom's tips and community news

    A voice note from listener Tom with a couple of handy tips and a call to share what you know, plus two new community projects to try.

  6. What has changed, and a home at Greenpeace

    A cleaner and safer festival, the trouble with tickets being so hard to get, litter and leaving no trace, Greenpeace, Strummerville and campfires.

  7. Favourite sets and Monday mornings

    The set that left him in tears, sunrise at the Stone Circle, closing Shangri-La, where to start with his songs and the one he retired.

  8. A show a day in 2022

    Who Jay wants to see this year, his plan to play a different show every day, a tip for a quiet steam, and a festival song from listener Connor.

Read the transcriptAutomatically generated, so it may contain errors.

Beans On Toast You've been listening to GlastoCast. This is Beans on Toast, Jessi and Miguel, checking out. See you in the fields.

Jessi Hello and welcome back to GlastoCast, the unofficial Glastonbury Festival podcast. Well, you heard it there from the man himself. That was Beans on Toast with his intro for us. You know, I thought we'd play that right up front. He is our guest for this episode. It was such a fun conversation. He is one of those guys that is a bit of a Glastonbury legend. If you've been going for a few years, you will have found him playing a stage somewhere. You will have walked past and gone, who's this guy? But if not, he's going to tell you all about himself as well. He has been going to Glastonbury for 25 years now, so He's got all the stories and we had some really, really fun chat. So let's get into it. Right guys, we have an awesome guest today. One of those names that when you hear, kind of, at least for me and a lot of people I know, takes you to Glastonbury, takes you to those smaller stages and really gives you that vibe. But somebody who's been associated with Glastonbury for many, many years, I'm sure we're going to get into that. And it's just the friendly face you're going to find around every corner corner in Worthy Farm, essentially. Jay, say hello. Who are you?

Beans On Toast Hello everybody, I'm Beans on Toast, around every corner at Worthy Farm. Um, yeah, I have been going to the festival for, you know, for a long, long time, and I, I feel like Glastonbury kind of runs in my blood, to be honest. It's that important to me. So it's nice to be here and talk to you about it on your podcast.

Jessi You're one of those people that when we started this podcast, I was like, I hope we get to a point where I can invite him on and he'll be keen for it. So really, really happy to have you here. And yeah, I mean, me and Miguel probably would say that Glastonbury runs in as well, but I think you take that to new heights. Um, so when did you first go to Glastonbury? What was your first year?

Beans On Toast I was 16, it was 1997, and I knew very little about Glastonbury at the time. Um, I actually went there to meet up with a girl. I wrote about this in my first book, so I always feel like I'm kind of cheating people by retelling the story. But, um, yeah, I'd— I'd— Glastonbury didn't get half as much kind of coverage as it it does now, so it was still quite mysterious. But I went— I mean, I loved music and I sort of knew that Radiohead were playing and stuff like that, but my main draw was to try and meet up with a girl that I'd met at a Placebo gig. And I did meet up with her, and also, yeah, I just sort of got to witness Glastonbury and all its magnificent beauty. I was 16. I was there— I went there for about a week. I stayed in Glastonbury town and then went down to the festival. And, uh, I mean, it changed my life. I came back a different person than I went. And, uh, since that year, however many— however long ago that was, 25 years ago or something, I've been to every Glastonbury since. I've never missed one.

Jessi Yeah, I was gonna say, um, you know, I brought this up because I, I've sort of read that story and I love that that was the only time you'd bought a ticket, right? And then by the time the festival turned up or the gates opened, you'd actually lost your tent Lost most of your belongings and you just walked through the gates and went, right, okay, here we go.

Beans On Toast Yeah, exactly. I actually, I bought the tickets off a girl that lived at the bottom of my road called Crystal Graham, um, and I think it was like, I think it was less than £100. It was like £70 or £80 or something. And, um, I managed to walk, not, not even trying, I walked through the main gate without showing the ticket to anybody. and realized I was sort of inside the festival and I had no money and nowhere to stay or anything. So I, I went out and sold it. And I know that ticket touting is probably, in this day and age, you know, it's not a very romantic thing, but it was a kind of needs must for a, for a 16-year-old. And there was £75 to be had, so I sold it to a tout and got back into the festival. I mean, you could come and go from Glastonbury back then with the correct stamp on your hand, as if it was like an indie club, you know. It was that— it was that, um, security was that different as opposed to, to what it is now. So yeah, that was amazing. And that £75, prob— I mean, it probably would have been a different weekend if I was literally in there penniless. Could, could well have been better, who knows.

Jessi Amazing. And then, uh, I wondered, because obviously you've written that in your book now and this story has got out there, I know, but has, uh, has— I know you said you never saw Mary Ferry ever again, but Has she ever— has anyone ever sort of claimed to be her, or has she materialized again since this story's kind of been told around?

Beans On Toast No, I kind of guess I did wonder that myself, as you put a story like that. I still got— I still go since putting the book out. I sort of make a point of being at the Tiny Tea Tent at 6 o'clock on Thursdays, which is kind of where the original meeting took place. I mean, not in the hope to sort of rekindle any sort of lost love from all those years ago, but just in a, um, just out of interest more than anything. But, um, yeah, no one has sort of said, oh, I know Mary Fairy, or, um, as far as I know, word never got back to her. And not that that was the point of me writing the book, it was more just the, um, or the chapter in the book, it was more just saying how it went down than anything else.

Miguel Do you remember if it was a specific moment on your first time? I know it's been 25 years, but, or maybe you wrote about this on your book, but when was it at Glastonbury? that you realized that this is going to change my life, I'm going to be coming here every single year now?

Beans On Toast I don't think it was probably when I got home, to be honest. I think I was, from the minute that I got through the gate, I was only living in the moment. I feel like the rest of my life vanished. I had no past or no future. All that mattered was what was going on there and then. And probably more so than ever in my life. I was— it wasn't like I was completely green, you know. I'd been to gigs and parties and stuff like that. Um, but yeah, it was just— I didn't think about it at the time. I just completely absorbed myself in all that was to, to, you know, offered. And then I kind of come back. I think it had been like I'd never even sort of gone that long without shaving before. I think I came back, I looked physically different. Uh, and I think even my parents were like, Wow, like they hadn't heard from me for, you know, that sort of comeback. And I think everybody knew, it was like, that's it, he's, you know, he's found his calling.

Jessi I love that. Yeah, I think, yeah, I've had that before. I've sort of come back and friends have gone like, oh, uh, you're a bit different now. I'm like, yes, yes, that's the one. Normally I think my voice has got deeper after every Glastonbury, to be fair. Um, what would you say, like, how was your like first performance at Glastonbury? Like, was it how many years after you first went did you actually you know, maybe pick up a guitar or even just join someone else on stage, something like that?

Beans On Toast I suppose there's sort of 2 first performances at Glastonbury. One of them was great and one of them was tragic. And I guess it must have been around 2000 and maybe 2006, 2007, or maybe 2007, 2008. But I was at the time, I was sort of living in London in a pub called Nambucca putting on shows. And I basically, I'd sort of written these songs and I had the name Beans on Toast, Toast. And I, they were— I used to sort of like play like grunge music, stuff like that. And I'd written these new songs that I could tell were kind of different than anything I'd done before, and they're really English. And I had the name Beans on Toast, and my loose plan was to start a band basically. Um, and I had a collection of songs, and then just at— it wasn't even like an open mic tent, but just in some tent late at night, some guy was singing on the guitar and it just kind of got left. And I was like, oh, can I get up and do some tunes. And I did, and I was sort of halfway through my first song and I realized, you know, I don't need a band with these songs that I've written. This is like— this can work. It was, it was preaching to the converted. I had a lot of songs about getting hammered at festivals, and I was singing it to a bunch of hammered people at a festival. So it was sort of— it ticked a box, but it was like— became— I think I played 3 songs and then I went home and just completely— that was really where Beans on Toast was kind of born right there at Glasto. So that was the first ever Beans on Toast gig. And then a year— I sort of gigged constantly after that, and a year later I got my first, like, official Glastonbury booking, which was on the Left Field stage at like 11 AM on the Thursday or something like that. And I did the obnoxious sort of thing that I did back then, whereas I thought that was a good excuse to kind of stay up all night doing cheap speed. And I was an absolute mess. I couldn't sing my songs, um, and my, my guitar was out of tune, and it was like I was surprised I ever got welcomed back to the festival, to be honest. So my other— my, my first sort of like gig was brilliant, and my first, uh, official gig was a mini disaster. But it was also sort of— that also sort of, uh, paved the way for the kind of Beans on Toast that happened. that I did years after, which was me getting very hammered and it being quite casually sort of forgetting the words and kind of carelessness, which I guess had some kind of charm to it. But yeah, there you go.

Miguel While that was happening, you realized you were having more people following you or people were contacting you?

Beans On Toast I mean, that was, again, that was what, 15 years ago or something? So it was more my music changed as I changed. I mean, I suppose the The other big one, which was also many years later, another sort of Glastonbury epiphany, was giving up taking drugs. Was after a weekend at Glastonbury, um, where I'd had, you know, I'd had a big weekend. Like you said there, Jessi, my voice was shot. I mean, I used to talk like this. That was my whole kind of shtick, you know. My shtick when I started off was, you know, like I had— I sung about parties and festivals and getting wrecked, and I had the voice to back it up. And, um, but I was getting more and more gigs and people were kind of, you know, it was becoming more of a real thing, and my voice was getting worse. And then after a particularly big Glasto, I just couldn't talk, you know. I woke up, I had a whole summer worth of festivals, I couldn't talk, let alone sing. And I remember laying there in my, in my tent staring up at the ceiling, kind of literally thinking about how I couldn't— how I knew I wasn't gonna be able to talk for a couple of days. And, uh, and I just sort of like thought it all through, and I gave up on the spot. I gave up smoking cigarettes and all chemical drugs, and I haven't touched any of them since, you know. And like a week later, when I had my next festival gig, to everyone else I still sounded like, you know, like the robot, but to me, I'd gained— I'd gained my voice back. And, um, over the course of the next sort of 3 or 4 years, it leveled out to a thing where I wasn't the guy with the funny voice. And I documented all that in song as well, you know. I documented the taking drugs and the stopping of the taking drugs, um, in song and again in, in my books as well. So, but yeah, that, um, another epiphany was it was Glastonbury that spurred that change. And I'm still, you know, like, that doesn't mean that I don't sort of think that recreational drugs have an important place in society, you know. That's a different podcast, I guess, but I sort of had my fill and I was sort of aware of that. And it was Glastonbury that made— it was Glastonbury where I became aware of it.

Jessi So it's interesting because I first— well, I was about to say discovered. I mean, I didn't discover you, but I first became aware of you when you supported Frank Turner at Wembley in 2012. Was that— I think it was. Yeah, that would have been 2012. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. And I think what, you know, you mentioned it at the start of what you were saying there was that actually you were just so endearing that you were, you know, the opening act. And like, you know, I think, yeah, you did do the whole kind of like, oh, wait a minute, what's my next verse kind of thing in the middle of the song. And it was one of those, like, it, it made you think like, that's my friend standing up there singing to all these people, even though I'd never sort of met you or knew of you before, if you see what I mean. But you gave off that aura of like, you're everybody's mate and you're doing your best and let's all have a good time and sing along together. And I think that was what really was really endearing at the time.

Beans On Toast Um, yeah, I call it mastered the art of fucking up.

Jessi Yeah, I love that. Um, yeah, I can't remember like if I've— if I noticed that was, you know, your voice was kind of like deeper or hoarser then or, or now. But yeah, I do remember obviously like, you know, back then every time you played it was MDM Amazing, that everybody was like, come on, let's, let's have some of that. And now it's kind of— you've got such a whole, um, repertoire of songs, if you know what I mean. It's a lot— the, the choice is a lot wider. Um, and I think it's really nice, you know.

I've—

Jessi I was talking to a few people on Um, there's been a Discord set up, uh, from, you know, lots of people from eFests have recently set up a Discord. So we were talking about this the other day and talking about you, and, um, you know, everybody was sort of saying about, oh, it's funny how sometimes you play the chicken song, sometimes you don't, and then you sort of switch out the lyrics a bit. Anyway, I'm going off on a mega tangent. Um, but yeah, it's just one of those things that that's what I think about when I think about you, is that kind of when anybody sees you on stage, you grab people instantly and you almost make people feel like you met them last night in the pub, if you see what I mean. Oh, I know this guy, I've met this guy, now he's up here singing, let's give him a big cheer. There's, yeah, as you say, mastering the art of fucking up.

Beans On Toast But I felt— I feel very relaxed on stage almost, you know, sometimes that's the sort of most sort of comfortable place for me to be. And, uh, so I guess maybe that, that plays into that a little bit. And yeah, you know, also my songs, I said my songs document what I'm doing and there's an honesty to them that when people, a lot of people say to me, fucking hell, I feel like I know you. And I was like, well, you probably do. I'm not really holding much back, am I? So yeah, it's cool, man.

Miguel I do have actually a question on that subject, which is what's your process for writing new music? If you keep writing notes when you have some inspiration or you sit down one day and one afternoon and say, right, and now I'm gonna write some lyrics, I want to talk about this subject. How does it work for you?

Beans On Toast Well, the one I— when I had my epiphany and decided to stop taking coke and pills, the one thing that I knew I wouldn't ever stop was smoking weed. And, uh, that is my songwriting process, basically. It doesn't really extend much further than that. I sort of live my life, and I sometimes think, oh, you could turn that into a song, That'd make a good lyric. But I never really make notes or anything like that. I just kind of go and go. And then when I have an evening to myself, you know, I'll have a spliff, I'll sit down, and I'll write 2 or 3 songs. And that's just what that drug has always done to me. It just sort of inspires me. I write a lot. I'd never want to play— I can't really play other people's songs.

No.

Beans On Toast And I kind of don't see the point of playing my own songs when I've already written them and I've learned them. I wouldn't sort of just sit around sort of jamming to myself with my old tunes. So my natural thing, if I want to sit and play guitar, is to write a new song.

Miguel After you have something new, do you tend to share some demos with some, maybe some close friends, or you try them live?

Beans On Toast Oh mate, I'll do it at the next gig, even if a song's not finished. You know, I'm gigging more than I'm writing, and if I've got an idea that I'm It's halfway through, I'll always be like, does anybody want to hear a song I haven't finished yet? You know, and sort of play it out. I mean, I think it was John Prine that said, you know, a song isn't really a song until someone else has heard it. You know, you don't really know what a song means to you or whether it's got legs or what it is at all when it's just private. So play it to— and that's something I say to Other people, songwriters that ask for advice, it's like, you know, always play a song to other people. Don't keep them to yourself, you know, because you never know what they are until you feel what you feel when you're playing it in front of someone else.

Miguel So then you're actually excited to share instead of being nervous or playing for the first time?

Beans On Toast Oh God, yeah. I mean, there's not much nervousness in anything that I do as Beans on Toast.

Jessi Surely you must play it to Lizzie first and then, you know, then it branches out, or is it literally like, I thought of something last night and I'm now I'm gonna play it on stage?

Beans On Toast Yeah, I mean, if Lizzie's around, she's kind of heard it all before, man. It's not like we're sort of like, hey baby, want to hear my new number? I mean, that happens, that happens a bit, but more often than not it's just like, yeah, you know, if I'm working on something and there's a gig the next day, then it will get aired That day for sure.

Jessi I think that's a great process to have. And I think, as you say, it's just— it's really like raw and natural, and it's just not— yeah, it's not what a lot of people do, do you know what I mean? It's not polished, it's not— it's not absolutely— it's not perfection. And people— I think that's what people really like about it. I saw you last year at— well, I've seen you many times, but one of the ones was last year at the Greenpeace stage at Glastonbury. I mean, I definitely felt like they put you on too small a stage because I turned up about 10 minutes before thinking it would be fine, couldn't get anywhere near the place. I had to like wiggle my way around into side. And then even then, I think I probably saw like your left elbow from the very, very side of the stage. I couldn't actually see you on stage.

Beans On Toast Yeah, it was more, more people than they'd ever had in that field, apparently, which is, you know, which is nice. I mean, and that was like, um, I mean, I was also playing— bloody hell, it was 2019— was I was also doing Left Field as well, which was, you know, the Greenpeace one was the you know, not a surprise gig, but it wasn't sort of seen as the main one. But I guess if it's on the app, you know, it's on the app and everybody knows that it's there. So I actually walked out on stage, I thought I was going to play like loads of random tunes because I was like, I'll save all the, you know, all the big ones that everybody wants to hear for the main show. And I was sort of halfway through playing some random tune, I looked up, I was like, what am I doing? Stop trying to be clever. Just fucking play, just play the songs that everyone's shouting for and just sort of like completely derail the gig. And, uh, and it was much better for it.

Jessi But what would you say is like the smallest crowd you've ever played to? Obviously I'm thinking that first tent when you first went on and said, can I just jump on the mic a minute? But like, you've done Left Field, but I know you're one to pick up a guitar and, and, and, you know, give it a go wherever you are. But what's like the smallest kind of crowd?

Beans On Toast I mean, I've definitely played shows to no one.

Jessi Really? At Glastonbury? Oh.

Beans On Toast I mean, there's always someone that— this is probably the sort of tragic gig which stands out, which was either— depends how you want to look at it— it was either to an audience of like 500 or to an audience of one. I was playing at the bar next to West Holts, and most people won't even know that there's a stage in there because it is definitely a bar, you know, like It is— there's, you know, everybody— you only go in there to get a drink and there's fucking hundreds of people in there queuing up wanting a drink. I was playing in there while Chic were playing on West Holts stage and it was like, you know, you could hear the fucking tunes banging through and you couldn't— there was no nothing coming out the speaker. But I was like, it was completely pointless thing, but I'd sort of said that I would do it, so I was like, all right, kind of like felt like a bit of an idiot but got up there And then I was halfway through my first song and I looked down and I was like, oh look, there's someone that's watching. And it was bloody Steve Lamacq. I played some cracking gigs that year at Glastonbury. And Steve, who I sort of know to say hello to, kind of waved and was like, you're right up there. And I was like, oh bloody hell. And he went on years later, he was talking about me on 6 Music and he said, it's like every corner you turn, like you said, every corner you turn at Glastonbury, Beans on Toast is on stage playing somewhere. And I know he was referring to just playing to everyone's backs turned in the bar at West Holts. But, you know, it was, you know, a gig's a gig. And I guess that gig in turn got a little shout out on Six Music. So, you know, like, always play. Yeah, always play your best.

Jessi That's, you know, free promotion. Why not? Like, if you could choose then. All right, so we've had your smallest one. I love that. But if you could choose your perfect Glastonbury stage, and then what kind of day, you know, whether you go for the Wednesday, Thursday, or more like the sort of Saturday, um, and sort of time. What would your like perfect Glastonbury gig look like?

Beans On Toast Well, my, my sort of sweet spot for festivals is Sunday at 3 o'clock, and, uh, that was a kind of tradition that I had at Secret Garden Party. I used to play Where the Wild Things Are. That time generally fluctuated a little generally around 3 o'clock. And then more recently, Boomtown Festival, which I kind of play religiously on the Sunday at 3 o'clock. And there's something about that time slot where certainly the Boomtown one, people always talk about how much the gig makes them cry. And they think that it's the deep emotions of my songs, but it's actually just the state of their bodies and their heads on a Sunday. And you just strum a gentle G chord and it kind of It ticks all the right boxes, and that is always my sweet spot to play at a festival. So Sunday, 3 o'clock, and, you know, where else but the Pyramid Stage if I was choosing?

Miguel Have you ever stepped foot on the Pyramid Stage?

Beans On Toast I haven't, no. I parked behind it once years and years ago, again, like when things were pretty different, and we managed to get our white Transit in because it just looked ropey enough for no one to stop us or ask us where we could and couldn't park. And we sort of parked underneath the Pyramid Stage in the dark of night. And also when a friend of mine that works for Glasto took me for a little tour of the site in like, I think it was like May or something like that when the festival wasn't happening. And, uh, we sort of looked at the Pyramid Stage, sort of walked around it then, but I've never been up on there as part of the festival, no. Yeah, I've never been up there.

Miguel I was just thinking as well, I think looking at the timeline, you start playing at Glastonbury right about when it started to get difficult to get tickets to go to the festival. So I think it worked out really well for you.

Beans On Toast Yeah, I was— I did— I think I did— I did X amount of years jumping in. Certainly my first, probably my first 5 years. What year did the fence go up? It was like 2002. Yeah.

Jessi Yeah.

Beans On Toast So '97 to 2002. And then, yeah, by that time, the first 2 years I managed to get jobs working in and around the festival in exchange for tickets. And then that slowly led to, yeah, getting, you know, certainly the first, the first bunch of gigs that I had. The kind of, I guess, still the sort of rule of thumb for the gigs on them smaller stages is if you're not asking for a ticket, then there's a, there's a gig to be had, if you know what I mean. It's like, get yourself in and then you get your gig sorted afterwards.

Miguel Uh, yes, uh, we did have a We spoke with Captain from Boomtown and he also suggested that if you want to start going to Glastonbury every year, you should start playing.

Beans On Toast Yeah, good shout, good advice.

Miguel How do you do Glastonbury these days? Do you see much of the main stages or do you tend to stay at the smaller ones?

Beans On Toast I've always sort of like chopped and changed, you know. There's always— there's as many acts on the main stages as there will be kind of things going on and mates and whatnot on the other little bits and bobs. Like, I don't really see the point of the people that are like, oh, I hate the Pyramid, I only like this bit, or vice versa, I only kind of enjoy the Pyramid and don't know that the other bits existed. I'll spread out, yeah. You know, I have a pretty varied sort of taste in music, so I'd say that each stage has a Each stage has sort of one person I particularly want to see, looking at the lineups as they're appearing. So I certainly feel like I'll be scooting around amongst the whole festival site.

Jessi Yeah, that's what we always say is the best way to do it, because I mean, the Pyramid is the Pyramid, right? And it always looks amazing on the BBC when you watch it back afterwards, and it is amazing to stand in that field. But yeah, you've got to make sure you get about, don't you?

Beans On Toast Yeah, I think you'd be a fool not to watch a band on the Pyramid though. Especially just for the sake of, I don't know, trying to be too cool for school or whatever. You know, some of the best— I mean, you know, I will definitely be there for Paul McCartney this year. You know, I was raised on the Beatles, and, uh, well, there you go, you know, Macca in the house. It's gonna be amazing.

Miguel How do you Glastonbury?

Beans On Toast How was it?

Miguel Is the question we ask all of our guests and, well, the reason for this podcast to be. There are so many ways to experience the festival and we want to hear your stories, moments you share with strangers, things you lost and things you found. Thank you for everyone sending their suggestions and audio clips, we listen to them all. For this episode we will hear from Tom, who shares his top tips and a reminder to us Glasto addicts.

Hello GlastoCast, my name is Tom, uh, this is going to be my 4th Glastonbury. I am very Very, very excited. Excitement has been building since I got my ticket in 2019. So as you can imagine, we're not far to go now. So excitement levels are ridiculous. I think this could be the one. I think, Miguel, this could be better than 2014. I think that Rob might finally climb the rainbow. Tower. I think that maybe Jessi will finally go to the Glasto sign, and maybe this year I will finally actually watch a film at Glastonbury, which I say every year and every year doesn't happen. I have a few quick tips for you. First quick tip is take a thermos flask with you and then go to the cider bus before bed. And they will serve you hot cider into your thermos flask, which you can then take with you to your tent and sit there and enjoy warm cider before bed. It is a treat. Another tip for you is a Flipstick, which is a lifesaver given that Glastonbury is so massive and we spend so long of it walking around and on our feet. It is essentially a stick with a seat on the top that folds up. And the folding up part is the crucial part because having a large stick on you at all times would be really quite annoying. Whereas having a foldable— it folds up very small. So yeah, having that, that you can just shove in a bag, it comes with a bag, or you can just put it in your day bag. And then when you're just sort of hanging around and your legs are hurting, and you can't be bothered to sit on the floor or don't want to sit on the floor. Yeah, you just whip out your seated stick and feel like a king or queen. So that's served me very well. One other thing I would say is people that are listening to the GlastoCast podcast, people who are on the forums, on the Facebook groups, etc., just be aware that we are the kind of top If not 1%, you know, the top 10% of Glastonbury obsessives, you know, we get all excited about when the map gets released. Most people aren't like that. Stuff that we take for granted, knowledge of secret sets, knowledge of secret venues, things like that, most people don't actually know. So just, you know, share the love. Like, don't go interrupting people's conversations. In a rude manner, but if you get chatting to random people, tell them things, tell them about stuff that you've learned, tell them about things that you know, you will improve their experience, hopefully, and you will be that guy that knew that thing. So yeah, share your knowledge.

Miguel #ShareTheLoveInGtown. Thank you so much for your contribution. And speaking of the online Glastonbury community, there's a couple of new additions that you may want to check out. A Discord server was set up by a group of users. I'm not gonna go into the details here, but it all happened quite fast, and the name for the Discord server, at least at the moment, is The Other Fests. There's some discussion to change that in the future, but in the meantime, if you just go into your browser and type theotherfests.co.uk, redirect you into an invite and you can join the server from there. If you are not familiar with Discord, the community has done videos and other guides to help you get acquainted. It's a mixture of forum, maybe a little bit of Twitter in there because it does have a chat, so the dynamics are quite different and it may work quite well during the festival. And another one is a website that is a great addition to your toolset to make the most of Glastonbury, and that's fastfood.eu. is a website that shows you a map where the food stalls are at the festival. How great is that? And anyone can contribute and help Dave, who launched the project, to get the map complete. So have a look at those, and as Tom said, share your knowledge and share the love. Back to you, Jessi.

Jessi I was gonna ask you, um, what would you say, you know, obviously you've been going since 1997, which is awesome. The festival's changed a lot since then. What would you say, is there anything that you feel is, you know, you miss from sort of the '90s years or the early noughties years? And then are there any like new bits that have come in that you think are, you know, obviously, you know, incredible new bits to the festival?

Beans On Toast It's certainly a lot cleaner than it used to be, which I think is a really good thing. And I think in the last few years as well, or in the last few Glastonburys, if you know what I mean, they made huge strides on that and it feels like a lot less crap underfoot. I also feel like it's probably quite a lot safer than perhaps it was. I think people want to hark back and be like, it used to be really edgy, and sort of like romanticize it. But, you know, like, I'm not really— I'm up for making the world a safer and more open place, you know. And I think that it has, it has done that. I suppose, um, what I perhaps I don't like is the fact that it being so difficult to get tickets, I guess, makes it a sort of exclusive event. It'd be lovely if there was a world where everybody that wanted to go to Glastonbury could, you know, like rather than it being a kind of a lottery of sort of— I sometimes wonder how many, if they kind of, if they were, you know, said we're just going to sell tickets and see how many people, how many tickets could they actually sell around the world if they was like, we're just going to make it work, everyone can come, how many tickets they would actually be able to do. And maybe like they could just then run Glastonbury for like a month or whatever. It'd be like, oh, like a swimming pool. It'd be like, those with a purple wristband, your Glastonbury has finished, please exit now. And it's sort of bringing, bringing the next lot.

Jessi That would be— we've talked about this. We'd be like, I would love Glastonbury to go on for like 3 weeks. But then also it is kind of like—

Beans On Toast Oh, but it wouldn't go on. It wouldn't go on for 3 weeks. If you, you just, you'd just have your 4 days like everyone else and then you'd be scooted off.

Jessi Oh yeah, yeah, ticket holders would, but the poor people who are working there, by weekend 3 they'd be like, right, I'm fed up with this now, you lot. Yeah, I don't know, maybe it wouldn't be as special.

Beans On Toast Yeah, but I, I suppose it's just like, it would— I sometimes, when you sort of talk about Glastonbury and you're not there, to people that, that want to go and can't, it always kind of sucks, if you know what I mean. That it feels like it's sort of like— not, not through any fault of its own, but it has just, because it's so popular, it's sort of become exclusive in a way.

Jessi Yeah, that is something we talk about, and it, you know, I wish everybody that could go could go as well. That would be really nice. Um, I just want to, you know, go back. You said about it being sort of safer and cleaner, and, um, that was something we, we had like a podcast that we talked about after the 2019 festival, and we thought we'd only be waiting 9 months till the next one or whatever. We did a podcast and we said that how, you know, there was a stark difference between 2017 and 2019 as far as kind of how clean it was at the end, or even like after a headliner on one of the main stages. You didn't have the crunch, crunch, crunch underfoot nearly as bad in 2019. Um, I know you've done work with Boomtown as well. You wrote your song, I think, in 2019, wasn't it, about, about clearing up after a festival?

Yeah.

Jessi You know, do you think you— are you seeing like a big change, do you think, across, you know, all festivals that you go to? Do you think people care more about the sort of clear up afterwards and and taking stuff home?

Beans On Toast Um, not really. I think different festivals have different mindsets, don't they? But I also think that, you know, as much as it's easy for like, you know, the Daily Mail to go like, look at all these fucking eco-warriors that come for a weekend and they drop all their crap on the floor, it's important to remember that, you know, like a week after Glastonbury, it's completely clean. You know, everybody is—

it—

Beans On Toast there is an agreement there that people have kind of signed up for and paid for. Yes, it would be lovely if nobody left a speck of rubbish on the floor, but it's not like that. That's different from, I don't know, trash in a local park. Um, and I, you know, I, and I feel that, um, yeah, I'm not— I'm certainly not, you know, I'll try and encourage people to clear up after themselves, but at the same time, I try not to sort of point too many fingers. You know, as a 16-year-old Not 16, sorry, maybe when I was like 18, 19 going to Reading Festival, you know, like I didn't give a shit, you know, I'd push over toilets, you know, and like set my fucking camp, my tent on fire because I was like, thought I was being cool. It's more, you know, like, um, it's more mindset than anything else. But I mean, hopefully it feels— it still feels like it's a teenage thing, uh, is the kind of leaving a mess behind, behind you, and you kind of grow out of it, don't you? So Hopefully, but I can't say I've seen anything.

Jessi Yeah, I think, I think the teenagers are starting to get it though, do you know what I mean? I feel like the teenagers are start— it's starting to filter down to them. Like, yeah, I was the same. I went to Reading and like, you know, the guy next to me was grabbing shit to put on a fire and I was like, yeah, and like going to find stuff and throw it on and yeah, burn it. And like, you know, all the kind of chaos of being a teenager. But like, I, I think it is really filtering down to them. Maybe it's the urgency climate change and everything and how it's all going on. But I definitely am seeing a difference, but maybe that's just me. Maybe I'm going to the right festivals, let's put it that way.

Beans On Toast Yeah, well, this is it. This is it. I mean, I do, you know, this year I'm playing 32 festivals, so I generally see a kind of pretty sort of across the board view. I mean, I don't want to sound cynical, you know. I'm sure overall I think the world is sort of bettering itself and waking up to this. But let's see, let's see this year. I know that I won't be making any mess.

Miguel Speaking of that, because you play at so many different festivals and also you tour in USA, is that a difference playing for different crowds then for you? Do you feel any difference?

Beans On Toast Not really, not really. I have kind of like an on switch and I just switch it when I get on stage and I put as much care and— or I enjoy myself, let's say, as much I would enjoy myself tomorrow when I play a small pub in Frome as much as, uh, I will, you know, like on stage at Glasto. You know, like it's all— I enjoy it all. And once I get in the kind of in the groove of a gig, you know, it's— it always, it always feels very similar for me.

Jessi So Jay, what would you say your favorite area of Glasto is? And I know that's difficult to pin down, but if you, if you did have one, maybe one off the beaten track that people might not have been to, or Or maybe not, but, you know, what would you say your sort of favorite little, little area is?

Beans On Toast Greenpeace. And, uh, for the kind of selfish reasons that for the last few years that's kind of where I've been camping, uh, basically. And, uh, it's a sweet little setup, Gem, for a lot— with a lot of people that run the Greenpeace stage and a lot of Greenpeace staff that are there kind of chugging, you know, getting people to sign up for the For the charity and stuff like that. And I'll tell you, that is a very tidy field, very clean showers and toilets because of, you know, because of the nature of the— and there's a lot of young people there. So, um, yeah, and I just think, I, I think just because of the closeness of it, you know, like, um, I've been playing that stage probably more than any other stage over the, over the years. And, uh, good friends of mine, like my booking agent, helps book the stage. So Yeah, it just feels like that is for the last 3 or 4 years or 3 or 4 Glastonburys, that's been kind of my home during the festival. So yeah, that's my favorite.

Jessi Yeah, I spoke about this before, but the Thursday of Greenpeace in 2019, that was when you played. But, uh, it just had a run of like all my favorite people. It had Too Many Teas, Dirty Moonshine Big Band, Oh My God! It's The Church.

Beans On Toast Um, all of those are This Is Now Agency.

Jessi Yeah, this is now, exactly. So it was awesome. So I basically spent my entire Thursday at Greenpeace, and I have to say, by about 5 PM, I was very trashed because I had lots and lots of cocktails.

Beans On Toast They're yet to announce the Greenpeace lineup yet, but I can— I feel like it's gonna be pretty special.

Jessi Oh yeah, anything similar to that one, I'll be happy about it. And, uh, if you're camping there this year, look out for me. I'll be camping in Greenpeace this year. So, out of respect. Yeah. And I was gonna say the other thing, uh, I think I remember reading— and I, forgive me, it was a little while that I read your books, um, but didn't you have something to do with Strummerville, you know, years ago as well? Was that one of the things that you got involved with?

Beans On Toast Yeah, big time. Yeah, I worked— I mean, that was my Glastonbury home for a good run of like 4, maybe 5 years. Around 2010, 2011, I guess around that sort of era. I was working for Strummerville. I was working for the charity, not just in Glastonbury, if you know what I mean. I was doing a couple of days a week working for the charity. And the main kind of, at the time, the main center of the charity was the Strummerville Campfire, which we ran at Glastonbury. And I used to book bands and you know, keep the fire burning and run a merch stand and stuff like that up there. A beautiful time.

Jessi Awesome. I've only been up there once, mainly because it's just such a slog up the hill.

Beans On Toast But yeah, it used to, it used to be somewhere different. It used to be somewhere different. It used to be where now is the Unfairground. That's where the Strummerville campfire used to be. Yeah, when I was working there before it became up the top of the hill.

Miguel No, I always go there because they have the fire going on. So sometimes late in the evening, I stop by to recharge a little bit.

Beans On Toast Yeah, that's the, you know, I mean, that's another thing that I think perhaps I miss from Glastonbury of days of old was campfires used to be, you know, encouraged rather than forbidden.

Miguel Well, I think it's just some, one of those things they do need to control as the festival grows. We're missing Rob here because Rob is who also used to do a podcast with us, he's a firefighter, so he will have something to say maybe.

Beans On Toast Yeah, well, I mean, it wasn't—

Jessi I don't—

Beans On Toast I'm sure that, you know, never— it never burnt down, you know. I think if you trust people to, to, to light fires and look after themselves, I actually think that people do better with a bit more, you know, give it— given the encouragement and authority of themselves, they actually behave better than if you imply loads of rules and regulations. That's when you get people misbehaving. But anyway, again, that's probably a different podcast.

Jessi They do still sell firewood, don't they? Like, there are some festivals that ban it entirely, but I think— I'm sure at least in 2019 they were still selling the firewood. But maybe that's just me.

Miguel Yeah, I think they were. Yeah, yeah, definitely.

Jessi Yeah. Okay, at least I know I can—

Beans On Toast Yeah, I've, I sort of felt like maybe they— maybe it's just me that's changed. Yeah, maybe there is lots, lots of fires.

Jessi Maybe you're not visiting the campsites as much, Jay.

That's it.

Beans On Toast Yeah, everybody I'm showing my true colors now.

Jessi Yeah.

Miguel Is there any best artists you've seen over the years at Glastonbury, or any crazy secret sets you happen to see?

Beans On Toast Kind of one of my sort of favorite acts, um, through— there's sort of been a thread through, um, my years of Glastonbury would be Kate Tempest, um, going back to the Sound of Rum days where I saw Sound of Rum again. It was them early Strummerville years, so 2010, maybe '11, just walked past a tent in what is now called the Unfairground and just heard, you know, a sort of band playing that sort of like— from outside the tent I was like, what is this? I love it! And ran in and saw Sound of Rum and heard Kay's words for the first time. And they were probably playing to, you know, 6 or 7 people, and I finished and just walked straight— it's easier to talk to people, isn't it, when they're playing to to small crowds. And I walked up to the 3 of them afterwards and made sure we became friends, should we put it that way. And I've followed, I've followed Kei's work ever since and, and, you know, seen them play an array of sets over the years. And West Holts, the years struggle, but West Holts when Kei played and it was the year that it was like People's Faces and Was it the Brexit year? I don't know. I was in tears, you know, like it was— and there's something about having, I mean, having a personal connection through our friendship, but also just first seeing the music there and then see it become so important in my life and then watching it on stage and just, it was magic. That goes down in my personal history as my favorite Glastonbury show of all time. Even though I don't know what year it was.

Miguel It was 2017, actually. I always go back to that video and it's not a lie, but I watched it today, this afternoon.

Beans On Toast Okay. Yeah, I think that video, because it's captured so well on the BBC coverage, isn't it? I think that has helped secure its place because my memory is awful, you know, and it is— I can go— I'd also go back to that video, you know, like Quite regularly if I need to tap into that. And I remember, like, as it finished, as the show finished, I turned around and there was like a sort of 6-foot dude crying as well. We just held each other for a moment and sort of nodded ourselves and then was like, okay, brother, take care out there.

Miguel You probably went past me then. It looks like you went past me then.

Jessi Yeah, good man.

Beans On Toast Yeah, that was very, very, very special. And I look forward to seeing K's set this year, wherever it might be.

Miguel Yeah, yeah, I think it's at Shangri-La actually, isn't it?

Jessi Oh, is it?

Beans On Toast They'll be doing more. There's a Shangri-La show, but there'll definitely be another one as well.

Miguel Yeah, speaking of Shangri-La Naughty Corner, there's a question that we started asking our guests that kind of reveals how they they experience Glastonbury. And the question is, it's Sunday at 6 in the morning, where are you likely to be?

Beans On Toast I'll probably be asleep in my van or in my tent. Like, um, there was whatever the year that Kanye played, I remember I was like, it was the earliest night I'd had all year. I sort of went back to my van to, you know, recharge and have a spliff and was just like, could just lay down. Like, and, uh, yeah, I just woke up the next morning. And I'm, I mean, I also The last few Glastos, like, I've got no qualms to an early night and an early morning. I've seen some fucking cracking stuff, like getting up early and wandering around. I saw Howard Marks a few years ago at like maybe 9:30 AM, you know, doing a talk. I just got up and was just wandering around by myself looking for some breakfast and And it, you know, like, what, what a treat. And, uh, so yeah, I mean, like, the Sunday night, Monday morning, that would be it if I've still got it in me. I mean, certainly back in the day, the Monday morning at Stone Circle was like, uh, that was another kind of sort of religious sort of experience and sort of passing for me. I actually had a friend that I used to meet on Monday morning at Stone Circle, and I never saw him anywhere else. And we just used to meet every year at the same spot at sunrise. We'd just go up, sometimes just the two of us, chat for a few hours and be like, respect, man, see you next year. Never stayed in touch. And I don't know, his name was Mackie, um, so maybe I'll see him this year.

Miguel Yeah, I love that.

Jessi Amazing. Uh, yeah, I've turned to find Like, 6 AM is probably pushing it for this question, but definitely 4 or 5 AM, I'm usually either in Shangri-La at the Truth Stage or in bed. It's like one or the other, I think. Maybe Monday morning up at the Stone Circle, who knows.

Miguel I was gonna say, Jess, I think we came up with this, with this question thinking we were gonna connect with many of our guests, but usually it's just they're in bed already. More and more I'm starting, I'm starting I feel that maybe I should take it slower then, I guess. I don't know.

Beans On Toast Well, I think it's— I think it's the Saturday night to Sunday is quite different to Sunday to Monday, isn't it? I'm just remembering now, at 2019 Monday morning, I, um, I ended up playing the sort of like the closing song for Chris Tofu in Shangri-La. And, uh, and I was like, I joined the New York Brass Band. I was like miming playing the trombone room walking onto the stage and then was just plugged in the guitar and played the— can't even remember what I played. I must have had some song which impressed Chris enough to go, turn the music off, Beans is gonna do a song. I think it was, it was Take Your Shit Home With You. Of course it was.

Jessi Yeah.

Beans On Toast So it was like, yeah, I told everybody to clear up at the, at the very end of the festival. So I missed the Stone Circle last year, but I was, you know, even without my, uh, my hardcore drugs, I was, I was still going strong Monday morning at sort Breakfast time.

Jessi I— yeah, I, I'm, I'm a little bit worried about this year, about my stamina, let's say, after 2 years off, no Glastonbury, and 2 years older. And yeah, with, uh, well, less help, let's say. Let's just say just booze. Um, it's gonna be interesting, but we'll see how we go. Um, cool. Uh, we've only got a couple more questions left. Um, you know, we always— we're gonna wrap up and sort of talk about you know, where you are in the lineup this year, or like, you know, where we can come find you. But if somebody— we do have a lot of, you know, we have some listeners on here who are discovering lots through us, uh, and if they have not heard of Beans on Toast, where do you reckon they should start? Is there like an album or anything that you would say would be a good thing to check out to find out the best about you?

Beans On Toast Um, well, I mean, I've got 13 albums out there, so I mean, to be honest, if you go on Spotify, I think the most democratic thing is let the people choose for you and just listen through the top 5, isn't it? The most listened through songs. That's a good enough place to start. I mean, I've got a song called Can't Get a Gig at Glastonbury, and if you're particularly looking for a Glastonbury number, then you can listen to that. I mean, other festival songs I've got, so there's Take Your Shit Home with You, which is from an album called Inevitable Trainwreck. I've got a song called This Side of the Fence on my first album, which is about festivals, and MD Amazing, which sits proudly at the top of my Spotify thing, which has always been everybody's favorite. And that's a true story about Glastonbury. And yeah, and then if you want— because some of the shows I'll be doing this year, I'll be doing with the band. And so if you want to hear more of what you probably hear this year, then listen to the new album, which is called Survival Awesome, thank you.

Jessi And I was wondering if you were going to mention your Can't Get a Gig at Glastonbury This Year song, because I, I can't remember if I heard you play that at Glastonbury or if I— if that is, you know, what, what happened there, you know, did— because you say you've played every festival, you know, since you started.

Beans On Toast Yeah, yeah, I know I did. I definitely did. I mean, it was quite embarrassing really because it was like, uh, I was just being really impatient And I was like, I'm not gonna get a gig, I'm not gonna get a gig. And I was really upset. And it was like the first year I'd stopped working for Strummerville, and it was like I didn't have an obvious in. And I was sort of freaking out. I wrote the song and it sort of name checks like a bunch of people in it, but one of them is Billy Bragg. And then I played the song out at a gig. I was like, feels like a good song. I played it out at a gig the day after I'd written it.

Oh my God!

Beans On Toast And then the day after that, the kind of call came in from Billy or sort of Billy's team saying like, we want you to play Left Field. And I was like, fuck, what am I gonna do? I've got this song about not being able to play and now I'm playing. So the invite was to play on Left Field as part of Billy's Big Roundup, which is where it's like a sort of songwriting circle, like where you share songs. 4 people get on stage and you kind of, you take turns in playing a song. So I sort of like played that song about not being able to get into Glastonbury and sort of like name-checking Billy and everyone for not perhaps giving me a gig while Billy was sat on stage next to me. And just kind of, you know, it was just the most honest way of dealing with it. And, you know, everybody took it as well as they could do, and it sort of went on from there. And then when I played what I would consider perhaps my sort of best Glastonbury show so far on Avalon Stage. Again, I can't remember the year, but it was the first year I played Avalon Stage. I kind of walked on stage and I was like, this is going to be the best gig I'm ever going to play, and then sort of went forward and sort of delivered that in my mind. But I also killed the song. I was like, I'm never going to play this song again. I'm going to play I Can't Get You Glastonbury Now for the last ever time. And I did, you know, and I've never played it since, which is easy for me to do because I've just forgotten how to play it. So even if there's like people— it's weird how many people want you to go back on your word. Like me saying that has sort of inspired people to go like, go on, just play it, go on. It's like, I'm not gonna do it. I mean, and it's easy to not do it because I can't. I can't remember how to play it. So yeah, I have no intention of playing it again, but it was a good little ditty while it lasted.

Miguel But at the same time, you mentioned The Art of Fucking Up, so you can still try it. So that's not an excuse, I guess.

Beans On Toast Yeah, I'm more true to my word than The Art of Fucking Up, I guess. If there was like an inkling to play it, If it was like, I wouldn't even know the first chord to start with. I mean, of course I could probably guess it off the cuff.

Miguel No, I'm just teasing. Mace, that's a great story. I guess to start moving towards the end, I would just like to make some questions about this year's festival. You already mentioned Kate Tempest, but is there any other artists you're looking forward to on the lineup this year?

Beans On Toast Yeah, definitely. Without sort of like— it's not just because I'm part of it, but certainly the, um, the Shangri-La lineup is— it sort of has, has tickled me the most at the moment. I mean, Bob Dylan— I'm yet to see, uh, Bob Dylan live, but I love the album, and I can only imagine it's going to be a fucking riot, um, as, as a live show. It certainly looks like it from, from online, so So Bob Dylan, KISS, who else is there? There's, I mean, Paul McCartney, really, that's kind of where, you know, that's on the drive down, I'll be, you know, I'll be blasting the Beatles. Let's, let's, let's be honest about that. Um, I was, yeah, that's, that's probably it. I mean, there's a whole bunch. I kind of, I, I can't really get too into it until that full lineup is, is released with all the little stages and all the time slots.

Yeah.

Beans On Toast I kind of get a little bamboozled by all the sort of different pages. It feels like loads of different festivals. I sort of look at it and go, oh, that'd be cool, that'd be cool. And then I need that sort of like, you know, the few hours in front of the website when it's like, here's everyone when they're on. And you're like, fuck yeah. I mean, and obviously you miss half the shit that you sort of think you're going to see then, but there's no harm in trying. Amazing.

Miguel And yeah, you just said the full lineup hasn't been officially released, but can you share where and when you're going to be playing?

Beans On Toast I don't know whether I can, to be honest. I mean, I can tell you this, I'm doing a show a day. I'm doing a show on Wednesday, Thursday, Friday, Saturday, and Sunday. One gig each day. And each gig will be different to the last. Like, a couple of them will be solo. One I'll be playing with Matt Tensheds, my piano player. I'll be doing one with a full band. I'm doing a kind of late night, more sort of jams with a bunch of different musicians and stuff like that.

So each—

Beans On Toast if you were so inclined to come along to every Beans on Toast gig, you wouldn't sort of see the same thing twice, if you know what I mean. And if anybody does, they get some kind of award. I don't know what the award will be, maybe a medal or something. But on my first show on the Wednesday, on the Wednesday when I do my first show, which is at the Bandstand, Um, I will, I will sort of like introduce the kind of the award system that I'll be putting in place. I haven't really thought— I'm only thinking about right now as we speak.

Jessi Amazing. There's me thinking like, right, do I— how much do I want this award? Um, no, okay, cool. So we've got Bandstand, we know you're on Shangri-La at some point, and I, I mean, it would be right to assume you're probably gonna play Greenpeace, right? And then that's all I'm Push you for.

Beans On Toast I mean, well, yeah, maybe. Yeah, I did, I did mention my favorite festival time slot as well, didn't I?

Jessi Yeah, yeah, yeah.

Beans On Toast Oh yeah, perhaps within, within here there's some decoding that could go on. It's not going to get me in trouble for actually announcing anything.

Jessi Amazing. I think, to be honest, by the time we put this out, I bet the lineup's going to come out. I think it's going to be due any day now. So yeah, you know, hopefully this won't, you know, be too secret. Yeah, awesome.

Beans On Toast Well, I mean, I could— oh yeah, yeah, let's just leave it as that.

Miguel People will find We're very happy to learn what you've shared with us already.

Jessi Awesome, cool. And I guess we can wrap up here, but are there any other, you know, is there any other little Glastonbury tidbit story that you want to leave us with before we sign off? No worries if not.

Beans On Toast I think one thing that never sort of gets the credit that it's due is Sam's Sauna. You know, it's a— I don't know whereabouts it is, but it's like a a full-on kind of steam room, you know, like if you're feeling it you can go naked but feel free to sort of leave your pants on as well. But like, you know, if you need to step out of it, it's like dark, proper steam room, like not plunge pool but like cold water showers afterwards. And, you know, like it's a kind of like sort you right out basically.

Jessi And, uh, It doesn't—

Beans On Toast it does— there's no all singing or all dancing. It's just there for those who know about it. And I'd highly, you know, I kind of use it when I need it and it sorts you right out.

Miguel Is that the Lost Horizon?

Beans On Toast No, that's, that's the— that's, that's another— it's similar to that. I know that Lost Horizon has a stage where you're allowed to play naked, aren't you? I've always, always wanted to play there because I always, like I said, I feel so comfortable on stage. I kind of would like to see what happens if I had to play a gig without my kit on. And it'd also be a good point for any gigs that look like they weren't going to go well in the future. You could be like, well, at least I'm allowed to wear my clothes. So if anybody from Lost Horizon is listening and wants a butt-naked Beans on Toast gig, please do get in touch.

Miguel Just make sure you're at the right stage, otherwise you're gonna start playing and get a gig at Glastonbury this year again.

Beans On Toast Yeah, exactly.

Jessi Well, let's just leave it at that then, I reckon. Um, thank you very much, Jay. It's been awesome having you on. Thank you for just—

Beans On Toast My pleasure.

Jessi Chatting Glastonbury. You know, it's like our favorite subject, and I kind of knew it was one of your favorite subjects as well, so I knew that you'd be— I had a feeling you'd be keen.

Beans On Toast I've had a great time. I've had— leave no trace.

Jessi Yes, leave no trace.

Amazing.

Miguel Yes, thank you so much, Jay. And there you have it! What a great conversation with Beans on Toast. And since we recorded this chat, the full lineup has come out, so now you can go to the Glastonbury website and find out where he'll be playing to see if you can get your hands on this prize, whatever it may be. Or you can also download the official Glastonbury mobile app and build your own lineup there. Or if you wanna do like the old-timers, go check clashfinder.com where you can make your selections. And that's it from us. This is our last episode before the festival. So from us at GlastoCast, have the most amazing festival ever. Make sure you drink loads of water, I guess. If you see us around the fields, come say hello, unless it's after midnight. In that case, probably let it go. And from me personally, So sorry about all these bits recorded with me trying to put on a radio voice, which I don't have. That's Jessi's skill. And finally, to finish this episode, we received a really nice contribution from Connor, who was already a guest in our podcast on the episode about volunteering. Beans on Toast style, he recorded the music about festival. So Connor is gonna introduce the track for us, and if you're anything like me, that's gonna get your excitement through the roof.

Hi guys, uh, Connor from the poppy rock band My Everest. Hope you're all well. It's great to actually speak to you again. Um, I joined the guys on the pod way back on the stewarding episode, which seems like a lifetime ago. I cannot believe we haven't had a festival since. Um, I've been an Oxfam steward for a decade now, would recommend it to anyone. I failed to get a ticket I thought it was my only way in and I haven't looked back since. It's a great way to experience the festival. But I'm coming from you in a different guise, the singer of the band My Everest. We love the festival as well and not a completely original idea, we've written a song about it, Sorry Beans on Toast. You know, I closed my eyes, put myself on the Pyramid Stage and I've written lyrics that I'd like to hear from an unknown band lucky enough to be in that position. You may hear callouts to your favourite areas, parts of the festival. It's basically a love letter to a muddy field in Somerset. We hope it can be your kind of once-a-year anthem, a song you dust off and belt out in the moment, a bit like, hey, Mariah Carey, All I Want for Christmas, but in the summer. The hook, we don't need anywhere else but here, is something I'm sure you can resonate with. That's exactly how I feel. When I'm at Glastonbury. Last cool kind of connection to the festival, the artwork, which you can see if you follow the band @myeverestmusic across all socials, was actually designed by Leanne, who is a fellow Oxfam steward, @designstrikes on Instagram. Someone I met at the festival, became friends with. She's a brilliant artist, and it's kind of designed around the Glastonbury bins. Check it out, check out Leanne's work. Hoping the guys on the pod will play the song now. Enjoy the track, We Are Worthy.

We packed our dreams and packed our beer. We got the road trip playlist on. Once a year we get there early. The side of us feels like home. My tent is too heavy. I'll carry it through the storm. Stone Circle, now I'm ready. This year will be the one. It's here, it's always here. You and me, a thousand new friends, moving to the beat of the drums. Drums. It's you, it's always you, and it will never be anyone else. It's you, it's always you, and it will never be anyone else. We don't need anywhere, anywhere else.

Jessi Okay, cool. Should we just do a goodbye then, Miguel? Is that— is that—

Miguel Yeah, yeah, I think that's it.

Jessi You want to do the goodbye?

Miguel No, you just go for it, please.

Jessi Okay, cool.

Beans On Toast You've been listening to Glasto— oh, what was it called? You've been listening to GlastoCast. This is Beans on Toast, Jessi and Miguel, checking out. See you in the fields.

Jessi Can we actually use that? Because I loved it. Of course you can. We might have to have that at the beginning.

Beans On Toast I want production credits as well.

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